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  • Nitro

    I’ve heard commentary previously that the whole “Sitting on the toptube / “Supertuck” was only something used when the cameras were around as it looks faster than it is…

    With Nibble’s win over the weekend and Sagan’s win at the Worlds, do I assume this is legitimate and that we’ll start seeing this on Beach Road on a more frequent basis ?

    • Sean

      It also works well when climbing, in fact a few of the faster beach road boys have done away with their seat post altogether.

    • I can say with 100% certainty that the ‘toptube supertuck’ (love the name BTW!) is far faster than any other position (except maybe the ‘Superman’).

      And yes, I use it on Beach Road all the time.

      • Abdu

        I am pretty sure I saw Veeral Patel adopt the Toptube Supertuck Doublepedaldrive for extra speed up the 2m driveway next door to Cafe Racer, to get in first and order his decaf soyaccino espresso.

      • _kw

        Agree, especially for tall riders.

        And kudos for reaching escape velocity on beach road (! ;-)

      • Chris

        Honestly, they use it here in Singapore all the time on slopes where speed rises over 45kph. Just baffling to see.

    • Arfy

      I thought both Sagan and Nibali gained more advantage by their aggressive cornering than their straightline speed. Particularly in Nibali’s case, he made the chasing group look like they were on a Sunday ride. It would be interesting to see the tuck difference in a wind-tunnel.

    • Gavin Adkins

      Haven’t seen the Pantani ‘chest on the saddle’ descending position for a while, that was big back in the 90s. Tried it a few times at speed (60km/hr+), seemed faster to just get in the drops and pedal.

    • Superpilot

      I can’t remember where, but someone did measure it. TTTuck vs superman vs chewing bars (sitting normally but hunched down to the bars). TTTuck was the fastest, the superman/Pantani wasn’t even quicker than a regular tuck if you got your arms tucked in and your body right down.
      But, it is as unstable as hell. If you hit a bump at speed, the TT rams your ass, which hit the nose of the saddle, bouncing it in the air, and with less leverage to the bars (can’t fight the bump forwards), you can bounce high enough to pull the back tyre up, and OTB you go! Not to mention the motion to get in there is kind of forward over the bars to get your bum in front and under the front of the nose, a very unstable position, albeit momentarily.
      I’ve tried it, it is faster (you can feel acceleration from terminal velocity in your other position), but I will never ever ever adopt it.
      Sags kept away on the bunch because of the fast descent, but everyone knows for numpties, you lose the most time riding up a hill, so best to concentrate on saving time there than risk the rest of your coffee buddies behind you by showing off.
      Saw a bloke TTTuck on a cycleway downhill that same day..

      • Harry Hubbard

        But which looks cooler?

    • The German tour-magazine tested downhill positions for their aerodynamics. “Toptube supertuck” was the fastest position. When the hands are parallel to the stem.


    • Stirrer

      Did anyone else read that as ” The Real Neanderthal”?
      No offence of course. I liked him for being that CX wheel grabber, now he’s going to be the next big cult hero…

      • Ush

        Wrong brother

      • justanotheropinion

        In fact I thought is was an anagram.

  • a different ben

    I really don’t like the paint job on Nibali’s bike. Is that too shallow a comment for a Monday morning?

    • jules

      nah that’s about right. it looks like one of those Reynolds 531 Cr-Mo 80s jobs blended paint jobs.

    • Gavin Adkins

      Nope, it’s pretty average.

    • Abdu

      It looks like one of Lance’s Treks from the early 2000’s…would have been apt if Aru was riding it.

    • Chris

      Shallow? Is this or is this not a cycling website?

  • jules

    I’m sure I heard Lizzie say black knicks were on order.

    • Michele
    • Winky

      Black knicks apparently aren’t allowed with the WC jersey. Only trade team, or white. UCI should allow black with white text/logos. Cycling shorts must be black, at least in the groinal and crackal regions. A little colour in the side panels is OK. Did Merckx wear white? Enough said.

  • Gavin Adkins

    The anti-dopage lady is back!

  • Ron

    Is it true Rory Sunderland has cancer and left world’s for treatment? Hope he pulls thru, good luck mate

  • Mark Blackwell

    Well atleast we won’t have to see that painful Alpecin ad with Kittel any longer… “Aren’t you just saying that because you are sponsored by Alpecin? Oh no no no… I just really like the feeling of the caffeine shampoo”. Three weeks of that became painful

    • Dad

      You should try watching the AFL Grand Final with a 9 year old while the AFL’s advertisers scream “Bet ! Gamble !” then “Game is over, now get really really drunk !” and have to explain to said 9 year old why it isn’t actually part of the sport …give me a cheezy Euro trash shampoo ad anyday.

      • De Mac

        Let’s not forget to mention that despite all the controversy over footballers gambling in the past – often leading to poor financial outcomes, or allegations of match-fixing, that when the VRC Spring Carnival was launched last week, we’ve got footballers adorned withTAB branded clothing and riding on TAB-branded sideshow rides, as the promotional vehicle…… oh, the irony…..


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