Mens Elite Road Race, National Championship at Buninyong, Ballarat, on January 11 2015. Photo: Con Chronis
  • Tim Ashton

    You say multi year deals in fixed locations are advantageous, I wonder if instead of moving every year there could fixed 2 or 3 year deals so the course changes reasonably regularly. I would like to see it move around though. I live in Brisbane and being able to go and see the nationals relatively locally would be great.

    • RayG

      You need to convince a Council and the Qld government of the benefits so they’ll fund it.

    • goldy

      An SEQ course in the hinterlands would be excellent. Battle of Borders has proven successful.

      • Tim Ashton

        Battle on the Border is all in NSW. But a course around there would be great. A fantastic area to ride and race bikes.

        • RayG

          I think those places still wouldn’t please Mark Renshaw, though.

    • Pete

      Move it at your peril. I watched 2 National champs just outside Adelaide around 2003/2004 (my memory is fading)
      the week before TDU and the crowd was pitiful in comparison to Bunuinyong. Plus the best rider wins on the current
      course whether he be sprinter, climber (1 winner in 10 years) or all rounder.

      • Tim Ashton

        Hard to compare without considering the enormous growth in cycling over the last 12-13 years. I suspect the crowd for the TDU in 2003/2004 was also pitiful in comparison.

        I’m not worried about moving the course to suit a different riders strengths, its more just to give other states a chance at holding the nationals and also opening up the opportunity for inexpensive live viewing to people who live outside VIC.

  • Sean

    One positive change would be to limit entries to a minimum level of A grade state level. I’ve lost count of the amount of hubbard’s getting blown out the back when the top guys are just cruising. Unless your a pro or close too, ride the damn fondo.

    • Dave

      Some sort of qualification system for the men’s road race should be considered.

      Maybe automatic entry to all Aussie riders on WorldTeams and Pro Conti teams, plus the top 20 from each state/territory championships.

      • Robert Merkel

        As long as the hubbards aren’t interfering with the serious contenders, is this really a serious problem?

        If your argument is that having mediocre riders on the startlist reduces the prestige of the event, I think that’s bollocks. By definition, they’ll be on the side of the road, beer in hand, by the time the telecast starts.

        Are they actually causing crashes or holding up riders who actually have an influence on the result?

        • Sean

          Good point, they’re not really having an impact like they would on a flatter circuit. In saying that, i still like the idea of a qualification system.

          • Cul

            Define Hubbard? Looking at the entry list Ithink you will fine every entrant is an accomplished rider in their own right; sure there are guys there that only finished 5 laps but they have also competed at state, national and even international level in some cases.

            • Abdu

              I’d argue that A graders in the field brings in more fans. Remember 40 year old Al Iocuone last year in the front bunch and getting involved.

              I’ve never seen an example of any getting in the way, yet know plenty of people motivated to attend or watch the event because they might see their mate.

              • Cul

                I was going to make reference to Al Iocuone, but couldn’t remember if it was 2014 or 2015 that he played a big part in the middle part of the race… If there were entry requirements there will be deserving riders that miss out, that race overseas (conti teams) and / other disciplines that would struggle to meet the selection criteria; think Dan McConnell (Trek Factory) last year, ranked 3rd in the UCI MTB rankings (2014) (8th 2015), only raced road for Road Nats, and TDU.

              • Dave

                They have the cutoff at the end of each lap to deal with the dropped guys before they get in the way of the leaders.

              • Luke Harvey-Palmer

                Yes, and it was also inspiring to see Peter Milostic this year on the front of a bunch driving a breakaway half way through the race as I recall. Peter must be at least 45?

                • Matthew Lucas

                  Pete is 41

                  • Luke Harvey-Palmer

                    Thanks Matt – I remember doing the Nationals with him back around 04/05, and thought he was a few years older than me back then. Either way, great effort from a veteran who just seems to get stronger!

      • Tim Rowe

        I don’t like the idea of just giving automatic entry to riders just because they’re in a professional team, but I see no issue to giving automatic entry to riders who have a minimum number of UCI points, such is one of the two ways to gain entry to a MTB World Cup. However I would be completely in favour of a system similar to that of BMX, where you have to be nominated up through the ranks to race at championship level events. This would allow clubs to use their own local road races or criteriums to nominate say up to three riders to be able to attend the event, and support club racing massively – it would mean that anyone who wants a shot at the National Champs has to support their club races.

    • Ritch

      Only 132 names on the startlist this year, so you’re talking about a non-problem.

      • Bex

        i agree, this isn’t an issue so why cloud the argument about location with eligibility.

  • JCJordan

    Its all well and good asking for the location to change every year but find a city or town willing to put in the time and effort to host the event. This is the number one reason in my opinion it does not move. Unfortunately the only two states with a cycling culture which would be willing to host the event are Victoria and South Australia. SA has the TDU so is less likely to be able to add another major event so for all of us outside of Vic can expect to be travelling interstate for many a year to come.

    • Sean

      I agree, both events would flop in comparison if they were hosted in QLD or NSW.

      • JCJordan

        I am surprised that they can get anything up in NSW with the amount of anti cycling feeling between the government and police. I have a bet with a mate that the Le Etape Australia does not go ahead in December to road approvals.

        • winkybiker

          NSW is within a bike’s throw of banning cycling altogether….

          • Pete

            I don’t think NSW is going to ban cycling, but it won’t be long before you won’t be able to race on the road.
            Most of the club races on the road take place on quietish backroads which tend to be fairly narrow. The 1m passing distance or 1.5m over 80km per hour will mean you can’t fit 2 riders side by side and a car on the same road in places. It will only take one complaint and the race won’t be allowed to happen.
            Not to mention the increased fines for “dangerous” riding. There goes the sprint.

  • Andy Logan

    I wouldnt have an issue with the course moving and think a change from Ballarat would be good, maybe once every 3 years or something, but I dont want to see a flat circuit, which is just a procession for 200km and then a 200m dash for the line. National Champs Races need to be hard imo, otherwise what’s the point.

    Caleb took out 2nd in 2015, but got dropped this year, so clearly didnt have the form for the race this year, but did last year, so the argument that Sprinters can’t do well on the circuit really don’t correspond with the reality.

    Personally I would love to see the race in NSW as well.

    • Dave

      Given the perpetual whinging of Mark Renshaw regarding the course, it should be noted that there is a road just outside his home town in central NSW which is quite famous around the world and already maintained to a high standard for a couple of other sporting events each year. Hold the race here for one year, and give him the honour of leading the peloton around the course on a neutralised lap before the start the race.


      • Sean

        Was it you suggesting they should move the TDU to Mt Bathurst? I agree, It’s been in Adelaide long enough.

      • Neil

        It’s annoying to see people deriding a number of pros who are never going to win on this course as whingers. Maybe the fact that Renshaw normally doesn’t compete, as did Cadel for a long time, is a reflection of the course and the event, and a considered opinion. When guys like Robbie McEwen and Henk Vogels want it moved, the same standard isn’t applied to them.

        • philipmcvey

          Spot on. It’s so close to the TDU that teams rightly don’t want their protected riders burning out on a course they can’t hope to win on. As a spectator’s event there’s not a lot wrong with this model and this type of course. Make it flatter and you end up with a very, very long criterium.

          • Dave


            If this were a real issue, we wouldn’t see any national championship jerseys represented in the Tour de France field.

            • philipmcvey

              Dave, your argument may hold water if the incentive to expose those national jerseys for teams were the same going in to the TDU as they are for the much, much larger and much more watched TDF. But they’re not. I’d be tempted to call your argument ‘rubbish’ but I think it’s rude to arrogantly dismiss the well meaning opinions of others.

        • Dave

          Mark Renshaw is always whinging about something though – and it’s for that reason he should be ‘honoured’ (i.e. punished) by having to ride his bike up Mt Panorama.

          • Neil

            He was doing laps all summer as prep for the Nats.

    • Matt DeMaere

      The course, such as it is, selects for smaller (lighter) riders. Those with punch are called sprinters, but really the combination of weight and punch makes them much more versatile than that. The larger, heavier riders just cannot contest it in its present form. This includes not just sprinters, but also guys you might call Classics riders.

      The course also places a challenge on team tactics for the somewhat scant attendance of international teams to which some of the best talent belong. The guys that might be there in part as work horses, are often the same guys that simply suffer too much from the course.

      That being said, I think the course should probably being hard, by one means or another. A flat race, finishing in a field sprint will possibly select the best team rather than rider. The World’s and the Olympics are not easy courses. I don’t think it’s bad that the national title falls within the range of courses we see there. It would be nice if it wasn’t always in the same location, but there are very strong logistical reasons to keep it in one place. Much easier if this was cyclecross or otherwise entirely off public roads.

      • jules

        this. a flat course would be better for sprinters, so they’re always going to favour that. but it would also favour teams, who are more able to control the race. the Bunninyong loop is a nice leveler, if you want to control the race you’ll need to be able to climb strongly. this gives lone riders like Bobridge an even shot – as he just outrode the big teams on the day.

        to me, this format offers the most interest from a viewing/fan perspective. a flat course would be too predictable I reckon – not by determining the winner, who could still be a strong individual sprinter, but by nullifying the race up until the bunch sprint.

    • philipmcvey

      I agree. National champs races should be hard.. having larger numbers of DNFs is par for the course in the Euro versions. This was a great, great advertisement for road racing on a challenging course which echoes the layout of the best World’s and Olympics courses. Are there other challenging courses across the country? Of course.. and they should be given a go.

  • Neil

    Personally, I’m all for a course change. In saying that, I don’t believe it needs to be a move away from Ballarat as there is no doubt they have have backed it strongly. Surely there’s another course that could be used instead of the same Mount Buninyong loop. Best of both worlds, Ballarat gets rewarded, more variety in the race.

    • Dave

      Indeed. A few years ago there was a 20km loop used for the first couple of laps that still incorporated the climb out of Buninyong and the descent back into town but also a longer flat section in the middle of the lap instead of going straight up and down.

      There would have to be other options not involving the town of Buninyong but still in the Ballarat region. The time trial course shifts every year, no reason the same can’t be applied to the road race.


      However, once the support for the event from the City of Ballarat finishes, that would be the perfect time to shift to a new method of allocating hosting rights. Draw one of the six main events’ names out of a hat (RR and TT only, not the crits which are too open to corruption) at the start of the week and award the following year’s hosting rights to the winner’s state.

      The logistics of hosting it in WA or Tasmania could be a bit harder (though not entirely detrimental – it would mean fewer local Vic club riders entering for a laugh) but – quite unsurprisingly – there are also fewer national champions coming out of those states.

      • philipmcvey

        Your winner’s state idea is… er… a winner. That is a very feasible concept. Of course, there would then be the logistics of designing a route and selecting a host town/city every year, but that could be handled by asking all states to submit their routes prior to kicking off your winner concept and then holding to that for ten years. There’s always the chance of getting a load of WA club riders having a crack if it was in Perth, but that’s part of the charm of the event. Ballarat deserves great credit for backing the event, but this is a big country and to centralise a showcase event like this in one country town for years on end might not be the best way to grow the sport.

        • Dave

          I agree about selecting a road race course before the hosting rights get put on the line. Maybe not the time trial course, but certainly the course for the blue ribbon event.

          I don’t care about whether it must be fixed in advance every year or every ten, but at the least the roads should have been used for a national/international level race in the past and approved by a commissaire from interstate or overseas.

          • philipmcvey

            Once again spot on. Each state would be able to supply a route that fits that criteria given they run their own state champs on similar courses.

      • TZ

        “but – quite unsurprisingly – there are also fewer national champions coming out of those states…”

        Please explain.

        • Dave

          Fewer national-level bike races on offer in either state, plus Tasmania also has a smaller talent pool to pick from in every sport. Of course they’ll turn out fewer national champions than the other states which invest more in cycling.

          • TZ

            Not quite sure what your actual argument is mate. WA and Tas don’t……*deserve* to hold the National titles because they are not producing the goods?

            Yet…The Tour of Tasmania is regarded as one of if not the best and hardest race on the National calendar.
            Meyer and Durbridge (WA) won four National TT titles in a row, and the Road Race and Crit titles in 2013 and 2010. Porte (Tas) won the TT in 2015 and starts as near favourite for the road race in recent years. Also won Paris-Nice twice, but who’s counting. Count the Tassie road pros and world titles on the track over the years…there;s a more than a few.
            By your logic, Victoria forfeits it’s right to hold the Elite TT titles because they’ve only won it once in the last 15 years.
            Talent pool size is largely irrelevant: Where is China’s Grand Tour winner with a have a talent pool of around 220 million? The Northern Territory has fielded the Australia’s sole grand tour winner at this stage, maybe we should hold the titles in Katherine?

            • Dave

              I’m not making any ‘argument’ – just a factual observation that if one of the six major races (not crits or novelty gran fondos) were to be randomly selected at the start of the week (maybe the women’s TT one year, the U23 road race the next…) and the hosting rights for the following year’s whole event awarded to the home state of that race’s winner, statistics would suggest we would see fewer national road titles held in WA or Tasmania than some of the other states.

              Over time, the states consistently producing the talent across all the disciplines would get to hold the national titles more often than those who only occasionally turn out a winner in one discipline.

              Apart from the problem of the wet season allowing for venues only in the central parts of the NT, if one of their riders won the event and the local cycling body was prepared to host the event then I wouldn’t see a problem with it being held in the NT.

              What’s your problem?

    • Anthony Rochester

      I agree – just a small tweak to the course could make all the difference. Do the loop in reverse, or extend the loop a little with a few less laps, whatever…

  • Gavin Adkins

    A great measured bit of reporting from Smith (as always).

    I agree entirely with Kevin Tabotta’s comments. I understand that plenty of people don’t. However, road nationals at Buninyong in its current form is demonstrably a very successful event. That’s actually a pretty hard thing to make happen in Australia (or anywhere really). Even harder to do year-on-year at different locations. If it ain’t broke…

    • Ronin

      My thought the entire read: if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. Australia has one of the best title races in the world. In fact, only the Belgian title race is as interesting to this fan, who’s neither Australian nor Belgian.

  • ceedee

    It’s logical to move the event around Australia, particularity having the event close to the big population centers of greater Sydney and south east Queenland (it’s been nearly a generation since the event has been held outside of VIC or SA). But CA is broke, so moving Nationals maybe out of question.

    • Tim Rowe

      Logical for what reason?

      What are the goals and aims we hope to achieve by shifting the event?
      If it’s variety in course, then this can still be achieved on different roads around Ballarat. There has to be some measurable goal in mind when these decisions are made.

      • ceedee

        Logical because it lets more people see Australia best riders compete, and experience a professional bike race which does happen now outside of SA and VIC.

        • Sean

          Try holding a race in NSW and then tell us all how you went with it. Everyone better be carrying their ID or else.

          • Abdu

            Not the slightest bit logical sorry, no one is going to travel interstate for a one day race like this. The harder to get to, the less riders will want to travel also (remember Richie isn’t driving in his RV or team bus). Sydney right now is worse than Texas, with cops deliberately running down cyclists in the middle of the CBD, and ID required to ride a bike (WTF?). It needs to be near a big city, not a big town like Brisvegas.

            Therefore it needs to be about an hour from either Melbourne.


            • charlie

              Nice reply drama queen.

            • Tim Ashton

              Brisbane is pretty big these days. Nationals could easily be held in close proximity to Perth, Adelaide, Brisbane, Sydney, Hobart. Believe it or not there is a cycling world outside of your Melbourne bubble.

  • Abdu

    I’m not sure why you didn’t raise any of the commercial aspects?

    CA needs good exposure and support to the sport, that’s pretty obvious.

    It is a two way street. Ballarat initially gives up plenty of funding and upfront costs in terms of shutting down the race location of Buninyong and getting the local businesses on board. That would have taken a few years before momentum was developed (think Amy Gillett Gran Fondo today compared to when it started). Ballarat is just the right size to benefit from a sudden influx of around 5,000 – 8,000 people for a weekend in terms of its businesses in accommodation, food, transport, plus small businesses in advertising, marketing, etc. CA now has everything running well for the competitors and support, plus fans (free buses up the hill). Change to a remote location and you get problems with all of that. Bigger locations (like the Gold Coast) might not work, as the event gets lost in the everyday tourism.

    Seeing as this wasn’t covered in the piece, I’ll take a stab and guess that shifting to a new location would be a massive loss in the first year. It would probably only be making a profit 2-3 years in.

    If the sport relies on funding, support and commercial considerations, changing locations would be dumb.

  • Abdu

    If they had a medal for whingeing we’d have a pretty good podium with Renshaw, McEwen and Henk.

  • Tim Rowe

    The rules state that any rider outside 8% of the winners time will not be classified. On Sunday, that was 22 minutes 24 seconds – the laps were about 16 minutes long. So maybe they just need a slightly longer lap – find a lap that takes 22 minutes. But if you’re outside that, they you’re not placed anyway, so there’s nothing wrong with there only being 15 finishers.

    Annoyingly however we get a piss-poor level of data out of the results from these events, which would be a complete mockery in other sports. The fact that we can’t, from the results, even see what lap a person retired on – that’s utterly pathetic.

    Ultimately, this is a national championship event, not a club race.

    • Dave

      If you’re dropping back by enough that you get pulled off the course to prevent the leaders tripping over you, you’re probably going to withdraw anyway.

      A longer lap, combined with adding in NRS series points (for individual classification only, not teams) could help that.

      • Tim Rowe

        I have no problem with lap-down and 80% rules – and I agree they should be used in Elite events. Leave them out of club and grassroots events, but in championship events, certainly Elite, outside Masters – yes, by all means they should be used. Hell, I’ve been the bearer of the brunt of annoyance from numerous riders, officials and spectators for doing duties on the 80% zone in both Cyclocross and MTB events. Even at World Cup events I’ve had riders pissed off over being removed from the race – but this is a World Cup, you know the rules, this isn’t club land anymore. On the other hand there’s always a rider glad to be able to call it a day without pulling the pin themselves – to be removed by an official in those event means your race is over but you’re classified as a finisher.

        But one thing I very much dislike about the results classification is that it does not distinguish between riders who retired from the race themselves, and riders who are removed from the race by officials, nor does it classify riders in any order unless they reach the finish.

        That’s not really acceptable in being an inclusive sport.

        • Dave

          Good point about classification.

          Motorsport at even domestic level has long been capable of classifying lapped finishers by the number of laps completed and the time gaps between cars on the same number of laps down. This might have averted an embarrassing podium presentation for the U23 class in the women’s road race at Buninyong a few years ago where only two of the U23 girls finished.

          It shouldn’t be hard, just add codes ‘NCC’ (not classified on course – withdrawn with a crash/mechanical and unable to complete the lap) or ‘NCT’ (not classified by time gap – for those removed at the end of a lap) which would both be accompanied by the number of laps completed. Riders who pull out on their own without a crash/mechanical being noted by a commissaire would still get a DNF code, and classified at the bottom below all the NCC and NCT riders.

          • Tim Rowe

            heh, I’m the last person you need to tell what motorsports are capable of – since the mid 80s there are two main software products (and companies) that did motorsports timing nationally – RaceTime, and NatSoft (National Software). The owner of the former is my father, and I’ve been chief timekeeper at events as high as V8 Supercars and NASCAR ;)
            There’s little difference in what you get at a club/domestic and international level in motorsports if it’s electronic – the time lines are all there. Cycling have this mentality of charging organisers more per time line, stupid things like that. In motorsport, the hardware/equipment is just there. You get all of it, regardless, we don’t go doing stupid things like charging more just because you want to use speed traps or sectors (many of which around the country I was physically involved in installing).

            So yeah. The quality of data we get in cycling… it’s about the level motorsport were getting in the late 70s.

  • Abdu

    If it aint broke…

    So what’s broken with the nationals?

    Biggest coverage and attendance ever. The overall attendance and coverage benefits the womens and U23’s also remember.

    Best fields entering ever. Have a look at the Aussie pro’s coming to ride it compared to the past.

    Podium in last few years had included our best riders plus a sprinkling of good NRS riders.

    Remind me why it should be moved again?

    Renshaw should move on, and Robbie, well he could just tell us how great he was again…

  • Paolo

    I would suggest to run the nationals on the same course as the Three Peaks Challenge. Sprinters will be complaining and ask to move it back to Ballarat. Problem solved.

  • seano

    The Nats always being in Ballarat Victoria is worse than the Yanks calling their local baseball comp the “World Series”.

  • Craig

    I think if the course were a flat one you would end up with hundreds lining up at the start.
    What with all the local club racers and masters/vets riders in their matching team kits out there thinking that their sprinter could mix it with the big boys.I think it would be carnage and not a good look for our Nats.

  • Robert Merkel

    On the topic of the women’s race, Gaudry is right – no sprinter has gotten close on the course.

    However, they’ve still been pretty entertaining races, in the main.

    A flatter women’s race would potentially be an interesting tactical battle, particularly if the Rochelle Gilmore managed teams worked together. Orica would be outnumbered and arguably outgunned in a sprint involving Kim Wells and Nettie Edmondson.

  • Alex Simmons

    I understand the desire and interest to move it from time to time however many comments seem to be made with little understanding if the logistical and infrastructure requirements and costs involved to host, operate and broadcast a race of this stature.

    Bunninyong has many natural infrastructure assets that make it a great option and of course financial support from the host city Ballarat without which there probably wouldn’t be a race at all, certainly not one that the top riders would bother turning up for.

    It’s within an easy drive of major metro centre for crowds, enough hotels to cope with the influx for the week, and roads that enable closures for the entire weekend without screwing up major alternative access for general public while still enabling crowds to be on the circuit relatively easily and safely. And the circuit itself provides for a safe and challenging race, with enough space in critical locations for all the extras required (convoy management, operations and associated infrastructure, podiums, TV coverage points etc). The level of traffic management required is also on the manageable scale. Once you start doing races like Cadel Evans GORR, then you run into millions of dollars to host an event and that’s just not financially feasible without big govt sponsorship.

    If another location was that interested, then they can bid for it and I’m sure CA will entertain other options. If it’s to be run during a holiday period so that crowd support and engagement is maximised, then you can forget locations that are generally tourist oriented (e.g. coastal locations) because they will be booked out with their normal holiday visitors and have no real need to entice the race there.

    You can also rule out locations where a quality loop of about the right length doesn’t exist, or if it does where there are no alternative connector roads to provide regular traffic an alternative route for the weekend closure of the road or cannot cope with the demands of that many people and all the race infrastructure needs. Ever wondered why the TdF starts and finishes in the same towns often? It’s because those are the locations that have the natural assets and are prepared to pay for the privilege.

    In NSW it gets pretty difficult to find such locations, the road network outside of the city is not nearly as dense as in Victoria (can thank the gold fields history for that). I have spent years and 10’s of thousands of km in car assessing possible race route options in NSW that meet such criteria. Yes there are a lot of roads and we have various state level races run on them, but this is big step up from these small races. Quality road race loops are that meet above criteria are pretty much non-existent in NSW now that urban expansion has seen the death of all road racing in greater metro Sydney (aside from the odd club race).

    Multi year deals make sense and it will take a local council with deep pockets to want the race on their roads and in their town/surrounds. The crowds will come if it’s close enough for a one-day trip from a big population centre. So put a compass needle in a capital city, draw a line within ~ 2 hours drive and see what you can find that makes logistical, financial and sporting sense.

    • Ash Casey

      More substance in this single comment than the article itself could offer.
      Given some of the comments here you would think that:
      A. Cycling Australia is made of money and can afford to run the titles themselves in a location of their choice, but I’m guessing CA doesn’t have the money to do so, or
      B. There are multiple governments (local/state) that are interested in hosting the titles and willing to put up the money and support that the City of Ballarat has.
      Does anyone know if there were other tenders/proposals submitted the last time the contract was advertised by CA?

    • ceedee

      This comment probably explains why I couldn’t find much about what Sydney road racing scene when I did internet search a few years back.

  • MattF

    I find the comments from Renshaw, Howard et al. to be sour grapes, at best, disrespectful at worst to the winners on the Buninyong course. Bobridge’s effort this year was simply outstanding. Haussler beat Ewan and Van der Ploeg last year – all sprinters of various descriptions. Renshaw, in particular, is still bitter about being overlooked for the Australian team at the Copenhagen Worlds (2011). He will get his chance this year in Qatar. Time to put up or shut up.

  • Ian

    Keep the location, have a couple of course variations. Simple solution?

  • Arfy

    The main argument presented here is that the course doesn’t change to suit different types of riders. Now Ballarat covers a wide region and has shown phenomenal support to the Nationals, surely there could be three or four approved courses in and around Ballarat that the Nationals could circulate through to give some variety to the event?

    • Bex

      great comment, too bad most of the other commentors have moved on. they did include a slightly larger loop in one of the previous years, but no reason they couldn’t change locations all together.

  • Andrew

    Buninyong = booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooaring

    The from the armchair via the TV whole course looks the same. There must be more interesting places to have the nation’s No1 road race.

    BTW The TV coverage was sh*t. You get the feeling the race was being run for the benefit of the advertisers.

  • Henk Vogels

    It’s the nationals , it should be in different states , also if it needs to stay there for financial reasons then keep it in Ballarat but alternate the course and make it a longer course , say 18klms per lap so the sprinters can get around the course

  • Simon T

    mt panarama tick tick tho with a feasibility studies and council negations can’t see this happening any time to soon
    should be like a band aid “right offfff”
    tho the way cycling is going with power meters, the whole peloton is holding a certain wattage
    and have to agree with few comments it like comes to this last final km’s
    its a tuff one
    personally cycling is bit like soccer now we have team directors as the stars of cycling calling the shots and tactics
    which is kind off over glorified
    like even in soccer WC teams have a different approach and styles
    Lance Armstrong brang a very NFL science based approach which is killing cycling a bit now

    do we ban power meters ??? during competition so its more organic man on man it would make TDF interesting
    kmon as amazing as these riders are its sad to see amazing riders going insane speed at approach to a climb to
    deliver 4 riders half way up – take away the power meters everyone’s not sure they have to think about tomorrow
    dunno this has all been covered cycling is at a crossroads , will the way its going kill these individual great riders
    needs to be a honest look at this by past riders without bias or there may be a separation from UCI


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