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  • Marcus Le Count

    This may seem like a dumb question, but I’m curious… Why train with Ultegra? Would you not want to train with the equipment you will race with?

    • Hamish Moffatt

      The DA 9000 is twice the price and the rider operates in the same way so it’s not necessary to train on it, maybe?

    • Paolo

      Because it’s cheaper as Garmin has to buy it?! No big difference between DA and Ultegra anyway. I’m sure they are also not training on top of the line carbon wheels either (apart from media days). Conclusion, the pro’s train on much lower level equipment compared to the average weekend warrior.

      • Dave

        Riders training for an important time trial will use a race-spec bike.

        Other than that the only difference between Ultegra and Dura-Ace is a few grams – a few grams which make no difference if the race bikes require ballast to meet 6.8kg anyway.

    • Sean

      There’s nothing wrong with ultegra bro. The only place it doesn’t cut it, is with the spankers on beach road.

    • Chris Coote

      I would have thought that they would have run Dura-Ace on the training bikes as well, on a bike that does 20-30,000km a year. I’d love to hear the rationale on that decision!

      • Mark Castro

        DA doesn’t wear any less than Ultegra. Every time the rider goes into organized training camps the team mechanics will routinely change brake pads, chains, cassettes, etc, on their training bikes to keep them up and running. Once the Classics start, until the very end of the year, most races put probably half their miles in during road racing, not necessarily training…which also saves a lot of mileage on their bikes.

      • C Grade Cyclist

        Chris – you should contact Garmin-Sharp (that World Tour pro team that’s been running a bunch of years with 25-30 riders riding 30,000+ km per year each), and tell them that they’re doing it wrong… ;-)

    • Mark Castro

      Only Shimano-sponsored or hugely sponsored teams will run with full D-A throughout the year. Ultegra is pretty common among pro teams, since it’s literally half the cost, and wear items are being replaced quite frequently.

  • Jonathan Rogers

    Interesting to see what bags and boxes are being used in that photo by the team haveing just researched the life out of that topic.

    Plenty of card board, a couple of Pika Packworks and an Evoc. No hard plastic cases insight.

    • Sean

      I noticed that as well. I am flying back to the US from Italy this Friday and I went head over heels and a lot of money to find myself a local hard plastic case for my bike because I was warned about using a cardboard box… and now I see a pro team using nothing but cardboard boxes!

    • asbjorjo

      The logistics of travelling with hard plastic cases are monumental compared to soft bags and cardboard boxes. They are heavy, take up loads of room when transported in cars or stored (like in hotel rooms). It’s a pain with 3-4 riders on a training camp with one bike each. Wouldn’t want to do it with 7 riders with 2 bikes each. ;)

      Also the cost is ridiculous.

    • Real talk

      If they can ship bikes around in cardboard boxes en-mass you can sure as hell stick your bike on a plane in one.

      Unless you’re a serial traveller (and thus would go through a lot of cardboard boxes, as they perish after a few uses), the case option is for people with more money than sense.

      My favorite bit about cardboard boxes is that they are plentiful and cheap. Land in a new city, ditch the box. Pick up a new one from a local shop before you catch your plane. Easy as.

  • sjk

    The beautiful thing with using cardboard boxes also is that most airliner specs let you bundle 2 boxes together (just duct-tape ’em) and “ship as one oversized item”. That saves some really money. Learned that from the pros, too when I was on a trip to Mallorca, Spain and saw them pay half of my fair for transporting a bunch of bikes.

  • LePuncheur

    Paying for Shimano equipment would stem back to when Slipstream went with Castelli from Pearl Izumi after 2010 – it ended pretty badly, and ended up in litigation

  • mark

    How I pack a bike in a box. http://markfunkyhoward.blogspot.nl/search?updated-min=2012-01-01T00:00:00%2B11:00&updated-max=2013-01-01T00:00:00%2B11:00&max-results=7
    The one thing difficult to take to an overseas race is the bike washing products and tubular glue. While easy to obtain in Australia, not so easy in China.
    Garmin probably use Ultrega on training bikes because it is cheaper to replace as they have to purchase it. Riders, yes even Pros are not real good at maintaining their bike. Tip, always be prepared to replace a few items if buying a ex team training bike. Otherwise buy a spare bike or race bike.

    • Douglas

      Thanks for the link. There are few good hints there. I am a convert from boxes and conventional soft bags to EVOC. Less work, and brilliant if you have to wheel it along cobblestone streets looking for an elusive hotel. Incidentally, the QANTAS box is huge, and you can leave the rear wheel on. However I have had to argue with Air France about its size, and they charge an extre 80 Euro for bikes.

  • C Grade Cyclist

    “Garmin-Sharp brought a plentiful supply of spare tubes with them in addition to 25 spare tyres.”
    They’re riding clinchers…?!

  • Ralph

    I reckon they could get a few tips from the F1 world :)

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