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  • Michele

    Did the Hengxiang Cycling Team model their jersey on the original RadioShack design, or is it just a cheap Chinese rip-off?

    Love Guardini’s quote:

    “This was the hottest day of my career, and for most of the others riders. We started the day in the desert at 53°C. I’d only ever seen 50° before when I was training in Adelaide, Australia.”

    Man up!

    • Winky

      It seems to be a cultural thing where people in some cultures see un-credited copying as acceptable or perhaps as some sort of homage. I don’t pretend to understand it, but have seen it in many fields. From car design, where many Chinese and Korean motor vehicles borrow heavily from BMW and Mercedes, to trying to explain to a business school colleague why his plagiarism was unacceptable and had to be removed from a joint paper we were submitting (or we would be failed and subject to disciplinary action). He never actually agreed with the principle, but grudgingly agreed with the majority opinion of the group.

      • Roger That

        It relates very much to Confucianism, where one learns from The Master. When a writer, artist, cook or whoever can match the master, they become a master (more or less). So if, in the countries you mention, when you can match (copy) the best in the world, you supposedly are ‘up there’ too. Pure, unbridled originality is a bit more of a Western concept (again, I’m simplifying things here a lot). With car design, the reason much Korean car design looks German – it is. Kia (owned by Hyundai) bought Audi’s head designer a few years back (and some of his team). Both brands have design teams in Germany.

        • Michele

          This is one reason why I love CT.

          Might be off topic – but really enjoy the diversity of comments on matters like these.

          Thanks Winky and Roger That.

          Sorry Wade for going off topic :)

      • Dave

        Samsung is particularly notorious – the company was created by the South Korean government specifically for the purpose of copying Western consumer goods and selling them at lower prices.

    • VK

      You guys are over-analyzing this subject. It is simply because not everyone can afford a BMW, Mercedes, louis vuitton or Gucci. Which is why the Chinese always come up with economical options to cater for a demographic with lower purchasing power, which undeniably, has great volume. It is all commercial. The only aspect of cultural influence in making such unacceptable decision when viewed by the West is that the Chinese are profit driven, and they are damn good at making them.

    • VK

      Oh.. and with Hengxiang’s kit design. Red and yellow is actually the colours of the flag of China. Which has strong influence from the People’s Liberation Army founded in the early 1900s. Yes it does look somewhat like RadioShack’s original design but only on Lance Armstrong’s kit with the yellow band – which arguably, shouldn’t be there?

    • Dave

      +1 on Guardini putting a spoonful of cement in his espresso.

      You can quite easily get 50°C in the sun even in Europe.

      • Andy B

        Ive been to Dubai in 53 degree heat.. walking a few hundred metres was bad enough let alone racing

  • velocite

    Just love that 50’s ad. The content is still apt and the retro style works for me..

    • Holby City

      The origins of rule #12, n+1

    • Nitro

      I went into my LBS this morning.

      Asked them if I could have the new bike with Di-2, Power Meter, Disc brakes and all the toys for 2 shillings a week.

      They told me to get lost.

      What did I do wrong?

      • velocite

        Har har! You should have offered 4 shillings – that’s what the ad said. And you were a bit greedy about the gear. Seriously though..I just did a quick google, and the average wage for ‘managers and clerks’ in Australia in 1950 was £433. A loan for three years at 10% would get £27, that’s 6.2% of that average wage. Current average wage is about $77k, 6.2% of which is $4,781. You may not get the power meter but I think you could get the other things you wanted for that amount.

  • Spare me the hypocrisy

    The riders are p1ssing into the wind about the heat and general conditions at the Abu Dhabi Tour, because the UCI and world tour teams have all taken the cash to be there and promote the race on Twitter etc.

    The riders should be bitching direct to their team owners who gladly sold them out.

    It shows how ineffective a riders’ union is (is there one?). Especially if someone like JV is involved (major conflict there as one of the team owners taking the $ from the Abu Dhabi organisers).

    Spare a thought for the 1,200+ workers who have died so far on work sites nearby for the Qatar FIFA World Cup Soccer. Foreign workers (non Euro, non Arab) are treated like slaves there, there is plenty of evidence available on the interwebs. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3106899/The-squalid-conditions-building-Qatar-s-tainted-260-billion-World-Cup-4-000-predicted-die-tournament.html

    4,000 workers are forecast to die in Qatar by the time the first match is played there.

    I hope the riders think about that when they are riding in these races. Maybe the journos covering them might look past the riders’ gripes and outside the hotel too.

    • Roger That

      The fourteen spectators there at the finish were having a great time.

      • Ha! I had a good laugh at that.

      • Dave

        They had a good chance of seeing a big stack too, notice on the onboard video that the organisers used barriers with protruding feet.

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    • Michele

      Some really good points there.

      I can understand why some riders might be a little reticent to speak up against their Team Bosses; although as you rightly say, any angst should really be directed at Management.

      However, Team Management have an easy solution to any quibbles they get from their riders. There are plenty of other riders who would be happy to take their place.

      As of last night there were still 500+ pro riders without a contract for next year.


      Sure some of those riders are going to / have retired. Some have no doubt signed a contract for next year and it just hasn’t been announced. And there’s still some time before squads get finalized.

      But a good portion of those riders must be worried about getting a ride for next year – and more than a few will miss out. Team Management have the balance of power / upper hand when it comes to matters like this.

    • jules

      I agree – it’s a disgrace that such unsafe working conditions are allowed in those countries. What are their govts doing about it? Nothing – they are undemocratic and corrupt. We need to find out who helped install them into power and keep them there, then.. oh, wait..

      • Michele

        But Jules .. you’re missing the big picture with that simplistic attitude.
        As today’s banner shows – the landscape looks amazing!!

        • jules

          I must say – it does.. !

    • ed

      I feel a bit sorry for the race organisers as its still quite warm here at the moment. I think they have made a mistake with stage 3 that finishes up the climb. the climb has lights the whole way up so I think they should have put the race back a few hours and had an early evening finish.

  • jules

    Rider slams race conditions at Tour de France

    “I cannot race like this, I am at 180 bpm just trying to hold Chris Froome’s wheel up the mountains. It’s impossible.”

    oh wait, that’s really happened ;)

  • Adam Fuller

    Nik Dow, from the Melbourne Bicycle Users Group needs to rethink his position and his overall objective. His stance here seems counter-productive. By recommending safer alternatives the council are assisting new and less confident cyclists and also fostering good relations across all road user groups. There are plenty of roads in Sydney where a safer alternative makes sense and I’m sure Melbourne is the same. Recommending dangerous roads not be used isn’t anti cyclist, it’s practical risk management.

    • jules

      disagree. nothing wrong with preferred routes – that’s already done and works fine. the problem with “discouraged” routes is that it makes cyclists who are confident about using them, or need to use them, targets for motorists who think “get off the non-preferred route!”

      effectively it’s the same thing, but it’s all about the language and how it’s sold. this is not being sold as a pro-cycling measure, it’s being sold just as much as a “look, we’re getting pesky cyclists off these streets for you motorists!” measure.

    • Cam

      People live and work on these streets – what they are suggesting is that it is to dangerous for these people to use a bike and encourage other forms of transport. Very backwards thinking.

      If they have identified these streets as dangerous for a particular user group they should be looking at ways at reducing the risks along those streets.

      All of these streets are already so congested with traffic that the average speed would rarely be above 15km/h from one end to the other in peak hour traffic – the most obvious risk management solution would be to reduce the maximum speed to 40km/h, King St statistically is also one of the highest pedestrian risk streets in the state. A lower maximum speed would also reduce that risk.

    • Karl

      “The amenity of Flinders Street is very hard for riding a bike, if you think about the trams, the traffic, the parking,”

      Sounds more like Swanston St to me.

  • Nick Clark

    Loved Ruben Plaza’s win at the Vuelta, what was it, 120km solo? Looking forward to seeing him working for Chaves and the Yates boys in OGE kit!

    • Dave

      Great win at the Tour de France too, holding off Peter Sagan on a technical descent and a short flat run to the finish.

      Orica will learn much from him about going all in rather than just hoping to get a few guys in the first group.


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