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  • ceedee

    Did Phil Liggett ever apologize to USADA for calling them nefarious?

  • Dave

    No surprise that Cookson has expressed his confidence in the Russian Cycling Federation. He knows which side his bread is buttered on.

    • velocite

      So long as the testing is being done without fear or favour then what Cookson says was exactly what he should have said IMHO.

      • Dave

        There’s a large amount of doubt as to whether that is the case – it is their anti-doping body under the heaviest scrutiny, not the athletics federation – but Cookson would love his job too much to risk offending Makarov.

      • Arfy

        With respect to Cookson, he should have no idea about the implementation strategy of the drug testing if it’s truly done independently of the UCI. Which makes his comments are worthless.

        • Michele

          Good point .. I’ve thought that a few times.

    • Michele

      I find that the bread is always buttered on the side that lands on the floor when you accidentally drop it.

  • Nitro

    Stunning feature image this morning… Captures the unique atmosphere in that part of the world (or at least on the days that its not raining !)

  • Thanks for sharing the ABC article on Phil Liggett – he showed a lot of faith which backfired. His strong connection with Armstrong and trust makes this a particularly bitter episode for Phil who became part of movement to protect and defend Armstrong amid allegations.

    While Phil uses the word ‘detriment’ to describe the impact, this is far too harsh as it was not up to him to challenge the integrity of Lance before conclusive evidence, conviction or admission of guilt.

    • Michele

      Personally, I think you could take Dave’s comment above and replace ‘Cookson’ with ‘Liggett’, and ‘Russian Cycling Federation’ with ‘Lance Armstrong’.

      • donncha

        Those quotes are hilarious an straight from Armstrong’s disinformation playbook: “A man, who knows a man, who knows the husband of Armstrong’s 2nd wife’s maid, said he’d never take drugs, ever, so I believe him” :)

      • Stompin

        When the money is in the millions, people say some funny things. In no way am I suggesting he’s on the take, rather the power of Lance’s money to neutralise reality.

    • jules

      if you look at it from Liggett’s perspective, he is the voice of cycling. that voice doesn’t speak so much to the fans who trawl through articles on Lance and doping, but more broadly to the larger number of casual fans who tune into the Tour to see the French countryside and ‘heroic’ acts by the world’s best cyclists.

      what’s he going to do there? he can be realistic and spit in the soup – turning off a lot of fans – or he can hold the company line that everything is above board. it’s obvious which one he, in his position, would choose – right up until it became untenable. I’m not applauding Phil for that, as it’s in part a cynical approach, but it’s also pragmatic.

      • Michele

        True Jules … but he did make those comments I’ve copied-and-pasted in a CyclingNews article. CN is marketed more at the cycling fanatic, then the casual observer.

        He didn’t need to make those comments. He could’ve kept it to a simple:

        “Did Lance Armstrong dope? Well, I’ve asked him to his face, and he told me – categorically – No! I’d like to think he didn’t dope; it’s an incredible story. Is the USADA investigation a waste of time and money? I guess the proof will be in the pudding.”

        And now Phil says he is disappointed that LA hasn’t apologised to him yet. I wonder if Liggett has said sorry to USADA?

    • Paolo

      Phil Liggett…some people stay jokers for live.

    • ummm…

      the problem is that “conclusive evidence” can be relative – or maybe I’m just saying that it is so. The evidence was quite conclusive for a vast majority of those following the developments. Some may say that outside of a failed test, that wasn’t excused with a TUE, or a picture of him doping, then there could never be “conclusive” evidence. Those things still have not been found. So, why would Lance Armstrong have admitted to his doping without “conclusive” evidence? The reason being is that there was plenty of it, just not in the form that guys like Phil Liggett were willing to accept either for personal or professional reasons.

      • Lance had a team of supporters around him, and Phil was part of it and probably felt good being part of the phenomenon. Of course he is also going to chose the ‘good’ story, the inspirational story and stories which build and support cycling – and for Armstrong this is the underdog story and having faith in the ‘impossible dream’.

        If Liggett chose the other side, he wouldn’t be very popular with the broadcasters… and perhaps many of the riders in the pro-peloton :o

        • ummm…

          O sure, I don’t expect him to have become a naysayer. However, I think he could have expressed less zest in the final days of the LA myth, given that he was one of the only guys that still stood behind Lance. But, how was he to know that LA would implode. Maybe he thought he would be remembered as a legend, just as Eddy is – or many other ex dopers. Nonetheless, Phil had many interests. That appears to be why doping in sport is so difficult to expel, everyone has various interests.

  • Michele

    Great banner image this morning.
    I appreciate it’s been shot in Wales, but does anyone know what type of Stallion that is?

    • MikeP

      Stallion? Looks like a sh*tland pony!

      • Sean parker

        It’s socks are too long and i detect that there may be some leg hairs that were missed shaving.

        Simply not acceptable in a CT headline photo.

        • craigus

          normally just an avid reading spectator – but this is funny side line

  • Kieran Degan

    Cycle to work payments would be a great incentive. I love how it is financed by traffic fines. Beautiful. But sure to enrage the haters even more.

    • jules

      I think these payments miss the point. I already save a small fortune by cycling to work. If people aren’t convinced by that, then a token payment isn’t going to do it.

      Mind you, I wouldn’t say no..

      • Psychology research says it won’t work. I might try to find time to write an article explaining why next week or thereabouts

        • ummm…

          Does the research basically say, “I’m not going to pay for all the equipment and get out in that nasty weather just for the shot at a measly 50.” I can remember when I first started commuting via bike. It costs a bit of money and experimentation to get the formula right, and that is with just an old bike form the 80s. Granted a lot of money was spent of upkeep in the beginning. Then what do we do with the car/car insurance. Have to keep that for the weekend trips to the big box supermarket. Anyhow, I think it is better than nothing and I applaud them for incentiving the mode.

          • Dave

            What to do with the car is ‘divest.’

            Pull your capital out of your car and put it into something that generates a return instead of depreciating, and hire one on the odd occasions it’s necessary.

          • No the research basically says that offering extrinsic incentives leads to a reduction of intrinsic motivation over time which means less people on bikes. More to come.

            • ummm…

              *brain explodes* I’ll wait for the long form article.

            • Will

              If what you’re obliquely referring to is the study of the kids being left late at the childsitters, then that’s not directly related. However, I don’t think you are, but really either contribute something of value or don’t bother.

              • Hi Will. No I’m not referring to that. And the contribution will come in two weeks when I’ve got time to make it properly in an article for a Wade. Patience grasshopper:)

    • velocite

      I agree, I think it’s a brilliant idea. If cycling saves money on future health costs and presumably transport infrastructure, there’s a perfectly appropriate message conveyed by a price signal. Tangible support like this should help cycling’s progress towards the mainstream.

    • Dave

      Sounds like a good idea.

      Can I take my payments in best practice infrastructure and quality end of trip facilities please?


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