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  • jules

    hmm.. I can get the same weight saving by skipping a slice of cake.

    beautiful brake though – I admire them anyway.

    • Chris

      True enough, but you can say that sort of thing about any purchase in this sport. At some point you find the limit of what you can rationalise, and for some people it’s a lot further than others. Alternatively, “$800? Think of the EPO I could score for that!”

      • jules

        you can rationalise their purchase for reasons other than objective performance. nothing wrong with that. I’d love a pair myself. not paying for them though :)

        • Chris

          Largely, the rationalising should go along the lines of “do I have that money, and is it needed for something else?”
          I for one really hope I can eat carbon and titanium when in retirement.

          • jules

            so many things to buy! new kit, shoes, sunnies, wheelsets, bikes…

            • Chris

              I found myself eying off this brakeset and the THM fibula a while back, but recognised with a bit of a jolt that I was just feeding the obsession and just didn’t need (like, they were all new) any new shoes, sunnies, wheels, bike etc, so was looking elsewhere at more ridiculous (for me) stuff.
              It was (and is) weird for me to have new DA9000 brakes on a new bike and still be looking to ‘upgrade’.

          • jules

            you’d want to grind it down pretty finely

  • warwick mcghee

    I couldn’t use these without nokon cables (for the rear brake) on my ‘small’ 52cm supersix evo. They were flexy too

  • Geoff

    “if you make something real, real ugly, sometimes it can start to look good”

    From now on this is what I’m telling myself every morning looking into the shaving mirror.

  • Tyron Anton

    It’s nice to see ultra-lightweight components surviving in the era of #aeroiseverything

    • Frank

      Not necessarily. It has more elements to create drag but the profile is compact and fits neatly in front of the fork. Sidepulls have those draggy arms hanging out in the wind. Without a tunnel to check, let’s call it a wash.

  • Will

    Personally I think the aesthetics are superb, I love the industrial styling. The price, my bank account does not love so much, however it’s great to read detailed reviewed on top level kit like this.
    Matt I notice the brakes are mounted on the TCR Adv Pro you reviewed recently, does this mean we might a see a longer term review of the bike? Or did you like it that much you decided to hang onto it a little longer?! ;)

    • Sorry, no long term review of the Giant; it was just my test mule for comparing the eebrakes with DA calipers.

  • Andy B

    had no ideas these were so expensive..

  • The Rabbit

    Replacement brake shoes for Shimano / SRAM / Campy calipers that allow tool-free pad swapping could be a good (and economical) after-market idea…

    • jules

      honestly, how hard is it to have a 2.5mm (or whatever) allen key ready?

      • The Rabbit

        Well Jules, it would be harder than not having a 2.5 allen key ready.

        • jules

          call me pedantic but if you are prepared enough to have your spare carbon or alloy specific pads ready to swap over, you can remember to have an allen key :)

          • Kupal


  • jonnyraycats

    I’ve got a silver pair ( long story ) of these on my dream build ( even longer story). First saw them ( being tested ) on a Merckx by one of their ( Merckx ) engineers. I think they look fantastic. Absolutely wrapped in the performance and modulation. Expensive yes, but v v happy with the indulgence.

    • Sorry for dredging up an ooold post, but I would kill to get my hands on a silver set!

  • velocite

    Interesting experiment. Result: the potential to improve on Shimano and Campy calipers is not there. Sounds like an expensive experiment though, since I don’t imagine they’ll sell many.

    • i think you’d be surprised.. I’ve sold way more pairs than I thought I ever would and they are OME on all the sWorks McLaren bikes so…. I don’t see how they have failed in any way as that power difference Matt is talking about is very very small and they are over 100g lighter a pair. Nothing in the lightweight/boutique world even comes close to the performance. And it would take a really analytical rider using them back to back with the DA brakes in all sorts of conditions to pick it.

      • Flemish toilet bowl

        How about zero gravity brakes? (As a comparable alternative in marketplace)

        100g is indeed a big saving for a race bike… and in a race they’re only really ‘speed modifiers’

        Shimano dual pivots for my city riding though. Lack of QR on the caliper is crap on campy

        • So the zero grav’s were the lightweight stopper to own 15 years ago. And while they progressed some what they never really evolved that much and got left behind.. They don’t work well with wide rims, they are really painful to set up, very sensitive to cable length and no longer stop that well… And That’s before you get into the very dodgy business practices of Ted Camillo

        • Spider

          I had the Zero Gravity – getting the right mechanic was paramount…once the cable length was right everything was cool and they worked well for 5 years. Had to sell them when I moved to Enve rims (width). I found pads (i.e compound) effected breaking a lot more than brakes (i.e difference between record, shimano, zero grav).

          I had a good 5 years out of them, sold them on ebay…and bought the new Micro GSL – Ted Camillo was fine to deal with both times. The GSL is designed for wide rims (includes a cam so you can do a quick change from narrow to wide rims – I’ve never used it!).

          They cost about 1/2 the price of EEbrakes – which I love the look at and would love to try!!!

          • My first pair happened for exactly the same reasons! I had GSL brakes and got a pair of 6.7s the EE brakes followed very shortly afterwards! The GSLs worked pretty well as I had them set up perfectly but once I got the EEs there was no turning back. In better in every way once you go there. They are expensive but to produce a brake using forgings ( that get revised quite often ) is an expensive process. On the up side they are half the price of a pair of THM or axLightness brakes and are much easier and safer to live with

  • Lyrebird_Cycles

    I’d really like to see the results from Craig turning his attention to cable actuated road disc brakes.

    As noted above, the major companies’ rim brakes are so good it’s hard to find a performance gain and only hard core weight weenies will pay that much for a small weight difference. The same cannot be said for road disc brakes: the current offerings are ripe for improvement.

  • Ettiene

    I have a Trek 7S. Shimano and other brands could not offer a rear brake that allowed the clearance to the left crank arm for my Stages power meter. However, I purchased the direct mount brakes, which allows the required clearance. I use this with Shimano Di2, and it works! I have no regrets with regards my purchase.

  • Il_falcone

    you wrote “It is well known that Shimano’s current road levers have less cable pull
    than other brands. It was reduced with the introduction of Dura Ace
    7900 in order to suit Shimano’s new brake caliper design, called SLR-EV”. That’s wrong. It’s the opposite. The BL-9000 brake levers pull more cable than any other road STi brake lever Shimano has ever produced. And it’s also more than what Sram and Campa levers pull.

  • Keir

    Certainly too expensive for me but that is not a reflection on these brakes. It is when you get to custom bicycles that these brakes probably come to the fore. Yes they may only be the equal in performance to the high level offerings from the Big Three but they are beautifully engineered and work very well. It is a bit like getting a titanium headset from Chris King. Do you need it? No, the aluminium works just as well but you really want it for your ultimate build and thats ok. When you are building a custom bike either for yourself or for your client it is important to satisfy all the wants. Would I bother for myself? Probably not, would I recommend them as something different to stand out a bit as a point of difference for one of our client’s rides. Most definitely.

  • Wagga boy

    I have had a set on my LOOK 695 for a couple of years and they have done 2 trips to Europe. Superb brakes and a great feel.

    • Scott

      When you say they compare to the SR, was that single or dual pivot you were comparing to?

  • Tommy Thornton

    I have a pair of eebrakes on my Parlee Z-Zero. I’m using Dura Ace levers and I think the braking power is incredible. I also like the industrial look of the brakes but it does make it harder to keep them clean.


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