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  • A

    Esquire? Really? When did esquire care about Chris Froome, or more to the point how much is a style and lifestyle publication paying Chris for these results?

    • Whammy

      A bit like Armstrong picking Oprah for his limited confession. Someone like Ashenden or Kimmage is the only option for real transparency. But who wants that when you are the target of doubt? You just want more doubt of your critics.

      • _kw

        I agree.

        I respect Kimmage for his fight against LA, McQuaid and Verbruggen but I would not expect him to be open to a position like David Walsh within Team Sky who confirmed that he believed Froome won the 2013 TdF clean and later criticised the TUE procedures in connection with the Tour de Romandie.

        For scientific analysis, peer review is a standard procedure and from that perspective, it may be the best to publish it with someone like Ashenden and maybe even include someone like Ross Tucker.

        Thibaut Pinot and his brother published years of data also showing the gains from year to year. Unfortunately, a detailed article may have been possible in Peloton or Rouleur but certainly not in Esquire UK as their readers simply do not care about cycling that much let alone the details of sports science…

        • Superpilot

          Laurens Ten Dam did do an article in Roleur, he gave all his data to an independent third party researcher, a big risk to his career! But even that researcher couldn’t say for sure whether he had been clean or not, he could only say it appeared that he hadn’t doped. Doesn’t matter what Froome and Sky do, the data could be peer reviewed by 100 researchers, anointed by the gods, but there will still be someone unsatisfied with the test, and the press will listen to the squeaky wheel.

          Esquire may seem an odd choice, but then it is also probably far higher circulation worldwide than any other options others have bandied about here. It may be a puff piece, but at least they will get the message out worldwide to all the July only cycling fans, and general sports fans who just mock cycling as a premium example of drug use.

          I’m looking forward to reading about the info released.

    • Steve

      its owned by news corp. so of course they’ll use their own publication, they’ll not be paying for it. but you can bet it generates them alot of £££ from internet hits and advertising buy ins. this is 2015

    • Steve

      update: the article is written by Richard Moore (slaying the badger, etape, the telegraph cycling podcast) and it was him who chose Esquire.

  • VO2min

    All which begs the question, Why does a third party need to be involved with publishing the details at all? Chris can’t post the info himself? Team Sky no longer has access to the internet? Is this really a good time for commercial interests and PR to be showing their ugly hand? Just the facts, please.

    • Samaway

      In cycling, “facts” are always packaged this way. What’s more crazy to me is how it’s gotten to the point where the drug testing isn’t enough for a TDF winner to be seen as “clean.”

      • Maxine Smith

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      • RamJam

        LA famously never tested positive even once. Nor did many many others who have admitted to doping. That’s why drug testing isn’t enough for a TDF winner to be seen as “clean.”

      • Paul Jakma

        The problem is we know the drug testing is not very effective.

        Many riders who have been implicated in doping have been implicated by the testimony of other riders or the obtaining of physical evidence, either through investigative journalism (e.g. Walsh & Ballestre’s book on Lance, the following of USPS staff to watch them dispose of material and bins and recover it, etc) or judicial investigations (e.g. into Ferrari, through which his phones were tapped and documents and financial records seized; or Fuentes, where the police raided the office and recovered blood bags – most of which have been investigated; the judicial investigations into Lance, which succeeded in cracking his team-mates and obtaining testimony).

        The simple fact is that many athletes who have been implicated in doping by those means had never tested positive in drug testing. So we know the drug testing simply isn’t effective. So how can it prove a rider clean?

    • jakub

      what makes it even more puzzling is the fact that results of a physiological test are available when sweat is still dripping off. you could write a master thesis about the topic within months it takes Froome to publish those few numbers.

      • Felicia James


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        • Sean

          What a very eloquent summary of the Mr Froome saga Felicia.

    • Sean

      I suspect, it’s got something to do with the highest bidder model.

    • Superpilot

      If they released the information themselves, no one would ever believe them. The scrutiny will be bad enough releasing it through a third party!

  • Nitro

    Welcome to the world that the cycling world has created for itself…

    We used to believe / want to believe that everyone was clean. Now we’re in a world (and understandably so) where we’re suspicious as a starting point – and there’s not a whole lot anyone can do to make us (the largely uneducated, watching from the sidelines, armchair expert) believe that people can do amazing things when they’re clean.

    Genuinely sad that anytime we see anyone dance off into the distance the Twitterverse lights up immediately (and again – understandably) with suspicions.

    Problem seems to be – its hard to prove someone’s on the juice, almost completely impossible to 100% prove that someone’s clean…

  • Darren Yearsley

    Very interested to see if heart rate data is included in the 2007 numbers

  • Stephen Davies

    This was first revealed a week ago by the journalist writing the story, Richard Moore on the BikeRadar forum:

    “The magazine is Esquire. I was the journalist in the lab and I offered the story to Esquire because they publish long-form journalism, and I have done stories with them before and liked what they did. The choice of publication was mine. It’s not a puff piece. The work done in the lab will appear as a peer-reviewed, scientific paper, but this will take time.

    The article will be published on 3 December. The delay is because it took the scientists (two from the GSK lab in London and Jeroen Swart from South Africa) several weeks to finalise their report. It then took me a couple of weeks to write the story and Esquire work about 6 weeks ahead of publication.

    Hope that clears up some of the points.”

    Ross Tucker will no doubt testify on the expertise and independence of Jeroen Swart.

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