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  • Peterneater

    always shitty “anglo” based drivers….always, Brits, Yanks, Aussies, Canadians. I don’t know why the worlds shittiest, most dangerous drivers speak English. No other countries have such a hate on for cyclists like ours.

    • steve

      except Amy Gillett was killed by a German

      • People are people and I’ve had close calls and great experiences with dozens of different countries. The biggest myth out there is that Europe is heaven for cyclists (not including places like Amsterdam – i’m talking about places we’d go on road rides). I’ve experienced the same stuff there as I have in the US, Canada, Australia, etc.

        • Michele

          Northern Italy (around Como) was the worse place I’ve ridden in.

          A couple of close calls, one involving a local, the other a German family on holiday.

          As you rightfully say, people are people.

        • Il_falcone

          Rural France is heaven for cyclists. Most of Italy was 20 years ago. But everywhere texting and other mobile phone use while driving has certainly become the No. One risk for our life as road cyclists.

          • pablo_skils

            I am sorry to hear it has changed in Italy. I made cycling tours from Firenze to my home England in the early 1990s and I loved the enthusiasm and care I would receive from Italian car drivers, it was quite special. It is so sad if smart phones have killed this. Well, at least I have my memories, and I will always cherish the friendly spirit of the Italian car drivers – it was like nowhere else on the planet.

            • Il_falcone

              I would say the development in Italian traffic is not only influenced by phone use at the steerer. I noticed a shift already in the late 1990s, early 2000s and Italians told me they think it was a side-effect of a socio-cultural shift which also showed in the fact that a guy like Berlusconi could win elections and not just one. They showed in general less respect and consideration for others (in traffic and life in general). That doesn’t apply to everyone of course but certainly to a noticable share.

        • Andy B

          The closest I’ve ever been to getting hit was in france.. millimetres in it

          Hope these guys all recover ok
          Photos of the damaged bikes is horrifying

        • Dave

          My sole car-on-bike hit in Australia was at the hands of a Dutchman!

    • Michele

      So you’re suggesting this incident was a deliberate act, motivated by a deep rooted hate for cyclists.


    • Your logic is flawed, although your ignorance is confirmed.

    • Trackman

      Can it Pete.just another stereotypical attitude by uninformed prejudiced illiterates.
      Mom always said “nothing nice to say? Then shut the fuck up”

      • Bikefreek

        Wow Trackman, your mum said that? Sounds like a mum worth taking advice from.

        Maybe your comments would be better received over at cyclingnews, that’s about your tone.

    • awesometown

      If you think that’s true, you’ve never visited china or india or south america and seen what bad driving really looks like.

      • Matt

        India,where a working horn is the most important part of a car.

      • pablo_skils

        I have Indian friends. They have told me about the roads there. It seems right of way, in every situation, goes to the vehicle capable of inflicting the most damage. In other words, anarchy.

    • pablo_skils

      It might be true that anglo drivers, more than others, hate cyclists, and having had lots of experience cycling in the countries you name I’m not going to dispute your assertion. But after driving and cycling around Europe for several years, I have to say my most frightening experiences on the roads, from a cyclist’s perspective, have been in Spain. Australian roads can be damn scary too, and based on horror stories from hoteliers in New Zealand – as well as my own observations – I sincerely advise cyclists against going there unless they’re planning to ride exclusively off road – many roads in NZ have no hard shoulder at all.

  • JohnFraser

    The vast majority of Spanish drivers are very careful around cyclists – and Spanish law says drivers must leave 1.5 m when overtaking.


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