Tour of Qatar 2016 - Elite - Stage 1
  • Neil

    So, has the MPCC led the way towards a more credible doping policy by the UCI? Or has it been a way for the teams to be seen as going above and beyond? Or is it completely irrelevant if as soon as teams are likely to be suspended, they quit?

    • Nick

      I think you summed it. To me it’s a way for teams to say, “see we are part of the MPCC, we are doing our part in keeping a clean team.” And then when they are asked to serve a suspension per the MPCC’s rules they just back out claiming they don’t agree with the way they are enforcing the punishment. I thinks it’s a good concept but without having the power to enforce it’s rules, it’s kind of a joke.

      • donncha

        Not really. MPCC has pushed the UCI to implement stronger controls in certain areas (cortisone, needles) so it’s effective on that front.

        While I agree that it can’t enforce it’s rules, it doesn’t really need to. It’s a voluntary organisation of teams who “intend” to hold themselves to a higher standard on anti-doping. If they then back out when they’ve actually got to demonstrate their “intention”, well it just makes it easy for all of us to realise which teams are only committed to doing the minimum necessary (if that).

        • jules

          this dilemma is common in industry codes of practice and accreditation schemes. a body creates the scheme for the purpose of allowing ‘best practice’ organisations to demonstrate that they are in fact best practice – by joining.

          but soon lesser organisations realise that there is a benefit in them joining too, particularly if they work out how to qualify as members without actually being best practice. this then leads to the governing body tightening the screws on the scheme to better discriminate between the best practice members and other ‘free riders’. but this causes the costs of being a member to increase, makes membership more complex and generally results in what was a scheme about recognising best practice members becoming more about treating them like criminals.

          so the good members leave and the dodgy ones remain.

    • From the Secret Pro a while back: “The MPCC was created with good intentions. The problem with them is that they’re made up with many teams which fall into the category of being untrustworthy. Within the peloton, Europcar has a reputation for having bent the rules for quite some time. Katusha has recently added a doctor on their books who served time in jail for doping-related offences. I can’t see Katusha having a strong stance on anti-doping and are likely only on the MPCC for PR reasons.”

      • Neil

        Okay. Interesting to look at Shayne Bannan’s point this morning: ‘We fully support the initiatives that have now become an integrated part of the rules of the sport.’
        Is this the case? If so, what is the point of the organisation?
        With regard to the Pro’s comment, if the MPCC is going to take on ‘dodgy’ teams, it should be a requirement of the organisation that any team cannot remove themselves to avoid a suspension. Otherwise, what do they really stand for?
        I don’t know how to take Bannan’s comment. Do OGE think that they could be linked as ‘guilty by association’? Or are they preempting an issue. Either way, the timing doesn’t look good.

        • Dave

          — With regard to the Pro’s comment, if the MPCC is going to take on ‘dodgy’ teams, it should be a requirement of the organisation that any team cannot remove themselves to avoid a suspension. Otherwise, what do they really stand for?

          What could the MPCC possibly do to enforce such an empty requirement if a team decides to leave their association? Kick them out? Issue a mild-mannered press release saying as much as they can without being sued?

      • Larry @CycleItalia

        “…only on the MPCC for PR reasons”? Are there OTHER reasons? The entire thing is/was little more than lipstick on the (doping)pig from the start.

  • prog

    Quality stuff.
    Not doping until you are caught and against doping until you are not

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