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  • jules

    disclosure statement: Gerry Ryan owns a bit of everything in Australia

  • Michele

    OGE / Rider were told on 22/4/2016 I believe??

    I reckon if I was OGE and I had just left the MPCC, I would’ve explained to Yates that they had to get on the front foot with this. And if that meant telling the press as soon as they knew why he tested +ve, then so be it.

    Surely it hasn’t taken them a week to determine the “administrative error”?

    And if they knew it was an “administrative error”, and they knew he took the drug, why would they wait for the B Sample?

    Love how Gerry is only disappointed in BC.

    • lefthandside

      I think you are being unrealistic, though I would say a week is around the upper limit (purely my own gut feeling). There is no way making an ill-informed or incorrect statement would help the matter. Better to know for sure and respond promptly rather than respond straight away and get it wrong

    • Dave

      I expect the leak came from OGE.

      They had a statement out pretty darn quick, despite being about 3am local time at HQ in Italy.

      • My_Oath

        OGE leaking it to the Daily Mail doesn’t make any sense. Someone from British Cycling deliberately or inadvertently leaking it does… And by inadvertent, I am not ruling out a phone tap.

        • bigdo

          A phone tap? Not bloody likely 007…lol

          • My_Oath

            Yeah… cos Fleet Street have never ever tapped a phone.

            • bigdo


      • Steve

        it was just after 11pm in UK when the statement was posted, and thats where the team were as stated in the article.

  • Neuron1

    There is only one question that needs to be answered here. At the time of the testing, for which the rider has been shown to have an adverse analytical finding, did he have a valid TUE in place for the substance that was found? If he did not than the substance is a doping agent. There are numerous other cases in cycling where riders have provided a doctors prescription for a substance yet been banned for an adverse finding, since they did not have a valid TUE.

    • donncha

      And one very famous case where a rider did not.

      Shame that Prince just died. Tonight I’m gonna party like it’s…

      • jules

        I think you are underestimating the serious issue that is saddle sores in the pro peloton

    • Oldan Slo

      The answer to the only one question is NO.

      • Neuron1

        Exactly. And if the rider were anything but a Brit, (Aussie,New Zealander, American) they would be in very deep trouble. Because we all know that english speaking teams don’t cheat. Just ask the Secret Pro. However, we will be told it was just a minor mistake, a clerical error, nothing more. The doctor screwed up, the rider should be cleared. This is just a more sophisticated Daryl Impey defense and watch them weasel out of the appropriate ban. Again, I have nothing against OGE or Yatsey, I’m just looking for some fairness in the rule application process. If this kid were Russian, Spanish, Italian or Columbian, not riding for Sky or OGE, every comment on this site would be to throw the book at him. And the UCI would.

        • bigdo


        • H20

          The UCI didn’t throw the book at Astana last year.

  • ebbe

    I honestly cannot think of one recent headline story in cycling where the “guilty party” was allowed due process before the fire stakes were lit, and the assumed culprit roasted to a crisp before any evidence was uncovered.

    • Belinda Hoare

      Sorry, but OGE or Yates or Ryan can’t claim the moral high ground on ‘due process’ on this one. Failing to follow due process is what got them into this mess in the first place.

      • ebbe


      • My_Oath

        They have accepted mea culpa for their error. There is no conflict in pointing out there is also another error.

      • jakub

        What you claim is logically inconsistent and a typical ad hominem fallacy. It is not relevant whether OGE has a moral ground to claim anything. You can’t deny the fact that someone at British Cycling didn’t follow the rules and leaked the information.

      • bigdo

        Very true…that is if you belive the whole story abt Yates having asthma and his doctor neglecting to file the right forms and all the other obvious bullshit that they’re trying to say to hide the fact that Yates got cold busted cheating.

  • Patrick Murphy

    Can someone explain why there would be a need for B sample if he was supposed to have a TUE?

    • My_Oath

      I’d prefer to hear the actual statement to try to draw context, but I ‘think’ he is referring to the fact an athlete has a 14 day (maybe ?) grace period in which they can ask to have the B Sample tested. Asking for such a sample is effectively a ‘not guilty’ plea – so I highly doubt they would have asked for it… but it would appear the story was in the press before Yates had made/declined the request. Declining the B test would have been accompanied by the paperwork showing his medical history and history of prior use.

      • Patrick Murphy

        Thanks. I can’t help but think this B sample stuff is more damaging, it smacks of panic. I’m a big fan of Yates, I hope we can hear his side of things.

  • Berne Shaw

    Wait a holy hour here mates administration error or administrative error? You FIRST get TUE then give medication not give medication then file for TUE afterwards! They did neither one. That is not an error it is want is called a violation. Requesting a so called back dated TUE is also a violation.

    • My_Oath

      There is another situation: an expired TUE. The TUEs aren’t open-ended. They are effective for set periods then a new application has to be submitted. The team has admitted mea culpa on that point.

    • Steve

      no you can apply for the TUE retrospectively, its on the TUE application form, http://www.ukad.org.uk/resources/document/asthma-screening-tue-form

  • Aaron McNany

    I like Orica, and I honestly give them some benefit of the doubt. I did, however, find this nifty use of Terbutaline: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/25113095/


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