Dave Zabriskie and Floyd Landis, 2016
  • Dom

    Pretty sure DZ ripped a cone around the 30 minute mark.

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  • Alex

    Interesting with their perspective on motors. One of the issues with testing for motors is that you can’t do it retroactively like you can with banned substances.

    • Eden Walker

      He doesn’t agree with testing 55year old amateurs and believes that money should be used to test elites and pro instead of weekend grinders. I agree. As a knackered old grinder i’d give EPO a pop next year when i bimble across europe

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  • Tamagawa

    These are fascinating interviews, but Floyd and Dave are often frustratingly inarticulate and — on the subject of doping — oddly reticent. Kind of cagey. Maybe too traumatized by their personal doping hellstorms to speak about it clearly and frankly? As for not being especially articulate, maybe that, too, is a result of years of having to pick your words extremely carefully for legal reasons. The conversation probably flows like quicksilver over pizza and beer, away from any microphones. I haven’t walked in their shoes so can only speculate. And dang, I wish I could access their products here in Japan.

    • Tony DaDub

      I enjoyed the interviews. DZ seemed more interested in auditioning for ‘The Big Lebowski II’, but Floyd had a lot to say that was useful and insightful. The worst part of the interviews was the sense of missed opportunitiy as Neal Rogers rambled on endlessly loving the sound of his own voice rather than having prepared properly and having crisp questions ready to get the interviewees talking. I’ll give him a pass for being sleep-deprived looking after a newborn. Having to ask if Floyd’s assault in 2006 was the last mountain stage, having to ask if the final climb that day was to Joux Plane, not being able to remember the name of the female MTB’er who was caught with the motor having written about her (I was in the middle of a 13-mile run listening and I was shouting “Wtf? It’s Femke Van den Driessche!”); not exactly the preparation you’d say screams ‘professional cycling journalist’, so I hope he was sleep deprived!

      But back to the content, ‘inarticulate’ was not a word that sprang to mind listening to Floyd talking about the legal difficulties he faced; the conflicts of interest WADA and UCI have being spawns of IOC; the contempt he has for USADA and Tygart; highlighting what the introduction of disc brakes will help (alpine goat avoidance) and what they won’t help (peloton crashes); the motivations for doping and whether there’s any reason to think anything has changed (there isn’t); his understanding of how marijuana will never be acceptable in some traditions and how that’s ok. All in all, Landis is a man who continues to advance the conversation any time he speaks. I hope we continue to hear from him.

  • Mark Kadillak

    Are these guys really not very bright or is it just an act? If the kids hear this Podcast they will remember two things: Weed causes brain damage / Always wear your bicycle helmet.

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