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2017 Specialized Ruby
  • winkybiker

    Sorry, just strikes me as some more poor/gimmicky engineering from S. Suspending the handlebars with a springy steerer tube is a long way from proper front suspension. And I simply can’t imagine wanting my handlebars to move relative to my forks and frame when pulling/pushing on them. Bringing the seat-stays is lower to allow seatube/seatpost flex has already been done, and more elegantly, by BMC.

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    • And your data to back up your assertion?

      • winkybiker

        Yep, I’ll accept that BMC doesn’t have the same length of cantilevered seatpost that the Roubaix has, but in each case, the “disconnection” of the trussed support of the seatpost results in the seat-post/seat-tube system flexing more than bikes where the top-tube and seat-stays join at the same place higher up. But it’s not all about how much seatpost there is to flex. In the case of the BMC the top-tube actually pushes back on the seat-tube, while the seatstays push forward, assisting the flex. The top-tube would perhaps be less effective in this regard in the Roubaix, pushing back on the piece of seat-tube that doesn’t actually touch the seatpost. Not to say the rear end of the Roubaix isn’t plush.

        Both systems are tuned for flex and bump absorption, and those can be worthwhile outcomes. I just find the Specialized approach to be overly complex and somewhat gimmicky (same with the Trek). I question the relevance (to me) of testing these bikes on Paris Roubaix cobbles. I never ride on roads that rough (well, hardly ever). I’d rather my handlebars be properly connected to my forks, rather than be tuned for aggressive cornering on rough cobbles, while trying to hold Boonen’s rear wheel, because I’m never likely to have to do that.

  • Romain Mousset

    Despite it’s narrow profile, Specialized found that the CL 32 wheels are in fact more aerodynamic than wheels with almost twice the depth like the CLX 40 rim brake wheels.

    SO 40 mm is almost twice the depth of 32 mm ?
    Damn

  • G7777777

    As someone who has a Ruby and rides on European cobblestone, this comes as a much welcomed relief! I’m so envious of these new features. I was actually considering getting the Diverge as a secondary bike, but maybe a new Ruby is in my future.

  • Sarah

    This seems like a myriad of contradictions. Lightweight but not stiff? How does one expect to get an aggressive fit here without the ability to slam the stem? What’s the point? Also how insanely ugly! There’s so much marketing hype here that it’s almost too difficult to cut through.

    I think RedShift’s Shock Stop looks way better than this, and it didn’t have give when pulling on the bars: http://www.slocyclist.com/redshifts-launches-shockstop-shock-absorbing-stem-on-kickstarter/

    • Mischadore

      You might be missing the purpose of this bike, which is comfort on rough rides and roads – the ones less travelled and often for pleasure or endurance racing. I doubt that the kind of people who would buy this bike are looking to aggressively slam their stem on their stiff bike.

      • Sarah

        I see your point, and really I was over exaggerating with the slammed stem, but it just seems to me that this bike reaches a super small market for riders who are only looking for comfort and an upright ride. The components here then just seem a little stupid. I mean, really, Di2?

        Also. It’s ugly. So, there’s that. Lol I don’t see why this is causing a stir at all.

        • Mischadore

          Oh dear. Have you ever heard of Paris Roubaix? Or looked at a bike packing tour through the mountains with all that gravel and fog and wilderness? This bike is for that, this is what is meant by endurance and pleasure. This bike is the women’s equivalent of what the men get for the toughest races on earth and a machine for adventure and I am stoked that they’ve given us that option.

          • Sarah

            Hahaha, ok, I’d like to see Evie Stevens ride THIS bike in any race. No pro rider would be caught dead on this thing. Not even on the cobbles.

            My point was, at the price point with these components coupled with its looks, WHO WILL BUY THIS?

            It’s a gimmick. Get a gravel grinder and chill.

            • Slowlycatchymonkey

              I will be buying it as soon as they get them in and I’ve had a test ride. The majority of cyclists are not pro riders they are people who just enjoy riding their bikes and comfort is a major factor in how long you can stay out on your bike and truly enjoy it. As someone who will never be competing (Im just too slow and too old) I get my kicks from endurance cycling and looking around at the scenery en route so if this shock absorbing bike makes those last miles more enjoyable I’m certainly up for it. As for the looks I don’t think it looks bad at all but then it wouldn’t matter to me what it looks like, style over substance is the maxim of the vain. If it is just a gimmick then why is every single review for it so darn good? I live nearish to a specialized store and they have been flooded with calls about when it will be coming in so it sounds like they have done their research and have an eagerly waiting market. A lot of cyclist seem to be so resistant to change and oh so judgmental about who’s a proper cyclist but really if you ride a bicycle your a cyclist end of. Open your mind and have a test ride, you never know just like all the cycling journos-you might just like it.

              • Sarah

                YOU DON’T NEED THE LIGHT WEIGHT/COMPONENTS THAT THIS BIKE COMES WITH UNLESS YOU ARE RACING, AND NO ONE WILL RACE THIS BIKE.

                IT’S OVERPRICED and OVERSPEC’D.

                This price point is ridiculous for a comfy ride. If you’re wanting comfy, you can get aftermarket shock absorbers that will cost you a fraction of this gimmick–they look better than this in most cases.

                I personally don’t care what you ride or how long or whatever, but this bike is all about marketing hype to a demographic that is, apparently, willing to overpay. Specialized has hired the best!

                My advice? Wait a year and buy a used one that has a few miles on it. It’ll be heavily discounted. Then you might actually enjoy the cushiness–sitting on your fat wallet.

                • Slowlycatchymonkey

                  So just to check some points with you in case Ive missed something on the general physics front- if your walking or riding any distance is this easier or harder carrying a heavy load or a light load?
                  Secondly all I can hear from you are complaints and mild insults that it costs a lot of money- so what, surely I can spend my money on what I like, including a comfy purpose built bike!
                  Fat wallets keep the cycling industry going round!
                  Sorry you “dont care what I ride or how long or whatever” as that was your main point (worthy of caps lock) – Who will buy this bike? So I wrongly thought you would like an answer!
                  Thirdly Test one out before condemning it, its hard to value the opinion of someone who hasn’t even tried it and yet is so certain its a gimmick. Maybe all the reviewers are wrong?!?!
                  Fourthly get yourself a gravel grinder and chill… otherwise you may come across as a bit cross and judgemental cross people are exceptionally hard to listen to.

                  • Sarah

                    Lol, get the bike if you want it. You can spend your money however you want. Just know there are cheaper options out there to match comfort that will also give you flexibility in components.

                    FYI, I have ridden this bike, and since I work in the industry, I have also ridden a lot of other bikes. I just can’t wrap my head around why everyone is cool with price gouging and unnecessary builds. But the industry has sold people on the idea that everyone needs top of the line components and the fact remains that they don’t. Racers want light because they win by millimeters–non-racers need “lightish.”

                    And I really wasn’t cross to begin with–it’s the automatic response to any dissent–see the first few comments here.

                    • Terry Chay

                      Since you work in the industry then you know the Ruby and Roubaix are the exact same prices (no premium for women’s specific) and that the 2017 frames are disc brake only, unlike the previous which was rim brake only. You also know that they are going to spec the testers with a more premium models so it’s hard to fault them for riding a $6.5k bike (which btw, is available for $4.6k if you don’t care about the 100g shaved by an s-works style carbon layup and iridescent paint job)

                      If you want the cheapest Shimano full group set (which the ruby is not because they spec a different crankset, unlike the Roubaix) with hydraulic levers and brakes then that means 105s with 505levers and brakes. Lo and behold, Specialized offers that at their lowest price point for $2600. There are Rubys that are cheaper, but they use last years frames which use rim brakes at a $600 savings vs current. When you look around at direct to consumer no-labels, you see a $300 premium for full hydraulics vs mechanical disc alone, so this means we are looking at $300 premium for the frame with a shock inside it AT MOST. This seems entirely reasonable. For reference, the Cannondale Slate charges a $1000 premium for the shock fork vs standard and their cheapst shock equipped model is $2900, again with the 505 class 105s. And that’s all after a $300 price drop after first year model introduction!

                      So it seems your beef is either with electronic shifting being overpriced, Ultegra being a group et that gives you nothing but finish and a few grams better than 105 unless you go electronic, or with Shimano not tricking down hydraulic brakeset prices to the entry level fast enough. In either case that is a beef with Shimano, not Specialized. Every manufacturer is in that rut, because as you go up the cost curve, it’s the groupset manufacturers who set the price of the models.

            • Christy Olsen

              Sarah-They can’t keep the Expert and Comp versions in stock here in Colorado. It seems you are a little out of touch with what most female riders want, which is a comfortable bike that can be used on a variety of road surfaces. BTW, what gravel grinder would you recommend?

              • Sarah

                Haha, this discussion has me cracking up. Y’all can ride whatever you want. It’s cool. Personally, I’ve looked at the sales sheets in Colorado and they don’t seem so spectacular to me.

                I merely voiced my own opinion on the contradictory nature of this bike as ridden and worshipped by Cycling Tips. Pretty over the top and an example of the way marketers butter up media with insider events who then in turn hype up a bike because they want to keep getting tester models and advertising deals. It’s all a racket.

                If you want to buy it, buy it. It’s mostly just hilarious to see how many people keep feeling the need to defend it or something. It’s all pretty silly.

                • Christy Olsen

                  lol. thanks for the info.

                  • Sarah

                    Lol You’re welcome. I appreciate the edits. I’m actually a really nice person and not a bike snob at all. This is like the one thing I’ve ever commented negatively on. But, then, comment boards don’t convey emotion, meaning, or intention very well. And dissent doesn’t go over well in many situations.

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