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  • Kieran Degan

    Best one yet. Nice work.

  • Dbmurray

    Great content, but breaking up the interview with random comments from the presenters is a trifle bit annoying.

    • Thanks for the feedback Dbmurray. Our thinking was that the interview covered a lot of different ideas and pivoted between topics quite often so it was worth breaking things down a bit before moving on. But we’ll certainly take your comments on board.

      • Dbmurray

        No problem Matt. I work in radio as well, so I can appreciate the experimentation. The breaking up works a bit better as the interview goes on, but the first few I didn’t quite realise that the audio had switched back to the podcasters discussing the interview and found it a bit jarring (and confusing). Perhaps some kind of sound to indicate that the podcast is switching from ‘interview mode’ to ‘review mode’ would be handy?

        • Matt DeMaere

          I’d appreciate a visual queue on the podcast so I can skip the present length interjections entirely. Sorry.

          Perhaps if you kept it more brief? Even the start where you spent a great deal of time apologising for background noise. I’m patient, but that felt excessive and really the audio is 99% fine from the standpoint of podcasts. It coulda been a single sentence — content not the spit-and-polish is king on the Net.

          Also, I have had a second look and I don’t see the names of both commentators in the intro text. That might be adding to confusion for those listeners with some distractions. As you’ve got it here, it’s listed as just Walsh being interviewed by de Neef, and yet I find a decent portion is de Neef and ${person2}.

          Thanks for the interview though. Interesting, good work on the day with Walsh.

          • Matt DeMaere

            Getting towards to the end and I think your interjections pick up substantially in value.

            [ed]. Heh, further through and I see why you’ve exhibited some self-consciousness about the background audio. Still good content though!

      • Cycling Fan

        I am inclined to agree here as well unfortunately Matt – its a format that has been used before by Cyclingtips though (or at the very least Neal and whoever that Fatty guy is) so I don’t quite buy that this interview was unique and that an interview can’t be followed linearly as with any other interview despite the topic changes – I listen to a truckload of podcasts so its unique i’ll give you that, not sure people are making the connection of who you are actually conversing with in the analysis mode and their relevance as well to be straight up – any analysis always needs credibility of the analysts for the listeners :) Not wanting to sound too critical though – it was by the most part an enjoyable listen

        • Thanks for the feedback. Certainly wasn’t trying to say that this interview was unique – we just felt breaking it up was a good way to present this one. Totally understand it didn’t work for some people. We’ll bear this in mind as we move forward. Thanks again!

          • Cycling Fan

            No worries mate didn’t mean to sound harsh, it’s tricky giving feedback without coming across as being harsh (or maybe it’s just me :) ). As I said it’s unique and I actually think you could potentially be onto something.

  • ZigaK

    at 37:20 – he is talking about Giro Delle Regioni 2007, not Regiolli :)

  • 900Aero

    Interesting interview but the overall effect is that I think even less of Walsh. He may be factually correct and he is an interesting subject but he gives the impression of enjoying a little too much Sky Kool-Aid. Esp regarding Froome. The way his answer to Matt’s very open final question about the state of road cycling today is completely Froome-centric is very telling. Walsh comes across as a zealot, not an objective observer. Further, his main arguments against Armstrong and for Froome seem to be essentially “you can just tell”. I’ve read his book and his articles, this interview doesn’t improve my view. Besides, there is more to cycling (even road racing) than Armstrong/US Postal and Wiggins-Froome/Sky.

    Walsh should buy Armstrong a beer, he owes his fame to him.

    • David9482

      I agree on the whole.

      Walsh is effectively saying that the feeling of the two teams is different – well obviously. Postal was using a type of doping that had to be concealed but what Sky is doing is much more subtle and sophisticated. So, clearly the feeling around Sky is more open and transparent, hence the use of TUE’s, which are considered legal.

      If Walsh was going to remain his objective self, he would discuss this and then to rip on Sky for their misuse of TUE’s. Don’t get me wrong, comparing Sky to Postal is ridiculous (Postal, Telekom, ONCE, etc. used way stronger drugs). But, Sky clearly misused TUEs. Even Froome appears to have misused them. It is a subtle violation, and technically even fully legal, but c’mon it doesn’t feel right.

    • David9482

      Walsh believes the sport is cleaner than it was, and I agree with this. It is not the same sport that it was 10-years ago. But, we need to continue to improve it. We need to close loopholes around out of competition usage of cortisone, reduce TUEs, etc.

      Walsh and Lance do need to share that beer. Looks like Chris Froome might owe Walsh a beer too.

    • Dbmurray

      Walsh has only himself to thank for his ‘fame’. He was doing his job as a sports journalist, stuck to his guns when everyone else turned a blind eye to Lance. To say he owes Lance anything is revolting.

      Also, I’m unsure where you got Walsh’s ‘pro Sky’ attitude – he condemns Sky’s TUE actions as unethical and has done in other interviews as well. If anything, Walsh has been consistent with his messages on drugs in sport.

      • 900Aero

        Walsh pursued Armstrong but he never proved a thing. Tygart & Novitsky did that. Walsh’s evidence had its day in court and he lost. Of course we now know Walsh was right and vindicated (by Oprah) but his journalism didn’t achieve anything material. If his evidence was strong, why did The Sunday TImes settle with Armstrong – even after his admission? Walsh had a film made about him – which he collaborated on; that’s fame. Where was he on Basso, Ullrich, Pantani, Rabobank , Telekom, ONCE…….? Walsh became famous on the back of Armstrongs demise. The beer comment was a joke, would have come across better in conversation than text…

        WRT Sky; how can he find the TUE use unethical, recommend Brailsford resign and then claim Brailsford is a decent guy? Where is the journalism in that? Brailsford is either a liar or not. Armstrong was a pretty decent guy if you speak to people who he helped via LiveStrong….

        Lets call it selective ethics, cognitive dissonance….Walshes macro message is consistent, his micro execution of that is not. To be clear, I’m not commenting on the innocence or guilt of Armstrong/Froome/Wiggins/Brailsford or anyone else. I’m commenting on flaws that I perceive in the journalistic approach.

    • Rob

      Absolutely. Walsh’s credibility has taken a massive hit over the Wiggins TUEs, and Froome is simply too good to be true for many, many cycling fans. You don’t get cups of urine thrown at you unless the suspicion is real. Acting like a besotted Froome fanboy is a turn-off.

      • ZigaK

        Well, taking the urine throwing as an argument that Froome is doping is stretching it a bit.

        • Samaway

          I think Rob’s point is that the urine speaks to the public skepticism around Froome, similar to that which existed around Armstrong at the time, but about which Walsh remains unwilling to question

          • Rob

            Bang on.

            • Alexis

              David Walsh is chief sports writer of a British newspaper owned by Rupert Murdoch. Rupert Murdoch has full control of the media conglomerate sponsoring Team Sky. Brian Cookson (UCI President) is a former President of British Cycling. Team Sky is the only British professional cycling team in the World Tour. Brian Cookson was also on the supervisory board of Team Sky.
              I guess we will not know about Team Sky doping program in a long time. But not worries, like with US Postal and Armstrong, we will know someday. So, let’s enjoy cycling before another three or maybe four Tour de France wins are scratched from the record books!

          • Dbmurray

            Yeah, but this has happened throughout cycling. Merckxx used to cop it too when he was winning. It’s more that people get sick of the same people winning.

  • Alexis

    David Walsh is chief sports writer of a British newspaper owned by Rupert Murdoch. Rupert Murdoch has full control of the media conglomerate sponsoring Team Sky. Brian Cookson (UCI President) is a former President of British Cycling. Team Sky is the only British professional cycling team in the World Tour. Brian Cookson was also on the supervisory board of Team Sky.
    I guess we will not know about Team Sky doping program in a long time. But not worries, like with US Postal and Armstrong, we will know someday. So, let’s enjoy cycling before another three or maybe four Tour de France wins are scratched from the record books.

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