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  • winkybiker

    OK, now 13 speed cassette? Seriously? Why are people so allergic to front derailleurs all of a sudden? They are perhaps the least troublesome component on a bike yet no-one wants them anymore, seemingly preferring either weird super-wide rear hubs or flimsy wheels with massive dish instead. The small chainring has simply been moved to the pie-plate cassettes, thus compromising both gearing range and ratio spacing. Oh, and now, to stop your chain coming off, you may need a chain-guide/catcher to do the job the FD did in its spare time. There’s nothing sweeter than snicking down into the small ring for a steep ramp and getting that instantaneous and 100% reliable response, even under full power.

    And please stop showing photographs of SRAM hydro levers. I just threw up my lunch.

    • George Darroch

      I actually get 1×11. There are plenty of redundant/unusable ratios in most 2x systems. You’re less constrained by cabling, you can do away with the FD and a shifter and get a small aero/weight gain if that’s your thing.

      But giant rear dinner-plates and wide hubs throw all of those benefits away.

    • Mike Williams

      The FD is the least useful part of a bike so why not get rid of it. (p.s. I am in hate mode for my road bike’s FD at the moment thanks to a case of chain suck :-))

    • Larry @CycleItalia

      Shifting between front chainrings is arguably the last part of operating a bicycle that requires any skill…or maybe at least, care. The industry wants to create what the photo industry did, a “point-and-shoot” toy that is truly idiot-proof. Otherwise the idiot market remains a challenge and with the mantra of grow or die, a very mature market is grasping at every potential bicycle buyer they can imagine. EPS and DI2 have not proven to be idiot (or even fool) proof when it comes to shifting up front, especially with compact 34-50 setups, so for some I guess the answer is simply to get rid of multiple chainrings?

      • Snapperman

        Truly? That’s what I’ve been running for the last 3 years and 40k. Never had a problem

    • Big J

      THANK YOU for saying this. I do not understand the 1X phenomenon, outside of places like Florida.

    • 1x drivetrains were never created for road bikes, first and foremost. The industry tried to push it but the benefits just arent there like they are for “dirt” bikes. 1x drivetrains have been very common on cx and mtb’s for many MANY years, there is no “all of a sudden” fd allergy, its a personal preference thing. If you ever raced cx, it would make sense. From a bikepacking/touring/mtb standpoint…its one less thing to break, and you give up very little in eliminating an fd, provided you have the fitness to make up for it… 13 speeds is excessive, yes, and it likely will never make it to the mainstream — its just fun to see a company (ANY company) creating “skunkworks-y” projects for their team to show off at a trade show.

      • winkybiker

        Except that now a pro-team has announced that it will be racing a 1X set-up on the road. Rather them than me. It’s pure BS marketing. “One less thing to break” is true but perhaps not that much of an argument. How often to FDs break? Really? My touring bike has 3 chainrings, and I’m glad it does.

        • Yea, that aqua blue business is super f*cking stupid, i agree, 1x is not practical for road bikes, at all. Off-road however, a 1x drivetrain offers a clutch RD (tighter slap/drop-free chain), a lighter bike (no extra rings, fd, shift bits, cable, housing), and several less things to break in the event of a crash/mishap. On my bikepacking rig, I have even gone to far as to mount a DT-shifter next to the stem on a Paul thumbie to ensure that in the event of a crash it could not be compromised, even if both brake levers were completely destroyed (obviously an extreme example but hey, ya never know!). Personally, I will never go back to 2x for cx or mtb, as I have never once missed having a fd in the past 6 years. Not once.

    • hamncheeze

      This is just continuing the MTBification of the road bike market. Disc brakes, thru-axles, now ridiculous 1x drivetrains. Good luck to the AquaBlue Sport squad next season racing those 1x drivetrains in big races. Neutral support….hmmm.

      • Wily_Quixote

        Front suspension, wheelbases as long as my kayak, stupid satin pajama style jerseys…. that is bad, but the final insult is here…

        It’s called ‘Roaduro’ and it’s the Next Big Thing.
        You get driven up to the top of a hill, whereupon you woop and say ‘bro’ a few times. Next you don a full face helmet, body armour and get ready to ‘shred the tar’.

        Then you coast down. Followed my more ‘bro’ing, elaborate handshakes and craft beer.

        It’s the Bizarro ‘Worlds Worst Retirement’.

        • James Huang

          “Shred the tar” — I’m totally using that somewhere.

          • Wily_Quixote

            I’ll put you in touch with my agent.

        • Snapperman

          And since when was it acceptable to be on the Podium in a baseball cap in team colours. Not a traditional cycling cap!

    • winkybiker

      OK, just so you all can gloat, I hereby inform you that I ripped the cage off my SR front derailleur on the way home tonight. Karma’s a bitch.

      • James Huang

        No gloating here. That sucks.

  • Larry @CycleItalia

    Sitting in the airport waiting to escape Las Vegas made me regret not seeing the ready-for-Eroica Masi for myself – but based on your photos i say BRAVO! Same with Bianchi’s effort, I’m nappy to see the industry pay a bit of attention to this category for those who may not have the way or means to create a true “bici d’epoca. Bellissima!

  • Bärlach

    Thanks for the informative article. Any weights for the Time pedals? Availability?

  • hamncheeze

    Time has new pedals….same lousy bearings and swiss cheese cleats though. If only they would go back to the Impact pedal with a metal body and metal cleat/spring contact and then start refining from there. I’ve been on Time almost exclusively since 1996 and it has been sad to see the decline in quality.

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