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Hindley wins in China; former mechanic defends Cancellara: Daily News Digest

by Matt de Neef

November 13, 2017

In today’s edition of the CyclingTips Daily News Digest: Jai Hindley takes overall honours at the Tour of Fuzhou; Van Aert and Van Looy win at Superprestige Gavere; Brown, Champtaloup win at the Tour of Margaret River; Gianni Moscon breaks wrist in gym accident; Dirt roads return to Gent-Wevelgem in 2018; Dani Moreno to join EF Education First-Drapac; Former mechanic defends Cancellara against motor doping claims; 60-year-old cops doping ban, blames wife for spiking drink; Luke Rowe’s road to recovery; Highlights from the Urban Cycling World Championships.

Jai Hindley takes overall honours at the Tour of Fuzhou

by CyclingTips

Jai Hindley (Mitchelton-Scott) has further underlined his potential as a star of the future with the 21-year-old Australian winning the Tour of Fuzhou over the weekend.

Hindley, riding for the Chinese/Australian Mitchelton-Scott Continental team, attacked late and rode to victory on the uphill finish to stage 4. That win put Hindley four seconds clear of his nearest rival, Ka Hoo Fung (Hong Kong China), going into the fifth and final stage of the Chinese UCI 2.1 race.

That final stage concluded in a bunch sprint, with Maris Bogdanovics (Rietumu Banka – Riga) taking the stage victory. After being ably supported by his teammates, Hindley finished safely in the bunch to take his first professional stage race victory.

“There were a lot of riders that were within a minute of GC and we needed to keep a close eye on them — it was quite nerve-wracking, but we got through it,” Hindley said. “I got caught up in a crash and so it was only certain once I crossed the line, for sure it was a big relief.”

Hindley will make the step up to the professional ranks in 2018 after signing a three-year deal with Sunweb.

Final Classification: > - Stage Result

Sunday 12th November 2017

1. au
HINDLEY Jai
Mitchelton Scott
14:18:33
2. hk
FUNG Ka Hoo
Hong Kong China
0:04
3. by
BAZHKOU Stanislau
Minsk Cycling Club
0:15

Today’s feature image comes from Cor Vos and shows  Lars van der Haar (Telenet – Fidea) crashing during the Gavere round of the Superprestige series over the weekend.

  • Mark Blackwell

    Happy to hear that the UCI will investigate the Cancellara issue. Phil Gaimon’s book re-kindled my interest in the issue… I’m sure he chose his words carefully, and there was no smoking gun, but like the Secret Pro it’s an interesting perspective.

    Any idea what a UCI investigation might comprise? In the Armstrong investigation the “lying under oath” element of was a step too far for his compadres, cracking open the omerta… does the UCI have anything like that to make sure that Cancellara’s mechanics tell the whole truth. Seems that’s the only way to get a result.

    • Michele

      The UCI’s “investigation” of LA was non-existent.

      They’re a toothless tiger …

    • Nitro

      Like the rest of us – I clearly don’t definitively know if Cancellara did or didn’t use a motor. I very much expect he did not, however, just out of interest… How do you categorically prove a negative?

      Finding the Loch Ness Monster, BigFoot or even a Tasmanian Tiger would prove they exist, but how do you PROVE that they don’t?

      Every few years better technology comes along, better scanners, better photography analysis techniques, better radar, yet its actually quite hard to prove that something absolutely does not exist / did not happen.

      If Cancellara cheated, the full force of the law should be thrown at him.

      If he didn’t, how does he ever 100% put this to bed?

      • DaveRides

        Perhaps Cancellara should chase some of Gaimon’s KOMs, or post some annotations for Gaimon’s book online to ensure readers get the full details of Gaimon’s close association (including public defence and non-chasing of KOMs) with Tommy Danielson.

        • Patrick Murphy

          He might chase them but I highly doubt he’d get them.

        • David9482

          What would chasing KOM’s resolve? Cancellara doing unsanctioned events with zero testing would only encourage the use of a hidden motor…

      • zosim

        The video, though is bollocks. The bit where they suggest he activates the motor by moving his hand suddenly towards the shifter looks a lot like a rider who is on the tops and using a mechanical groupset changing gear rapidly. Of course you could say he had a button there but I’ve watched it a few times over the year and I think it’s a gear change.

        • DaveRides

          Cancellara was well known for sticking with mechanical shifters for quite some time after most riders had switched to electronic. As a big note team leader, he was given additional choices over his equipment selection that normal riders wouldn’t get.

          I think he did start using electronic gears in the last few years of his career, but certainly not back in 2010.

      • David9482

        At this point, it’s almost impossible to put this 100% to bed either way.

        The only viable evidence would be an admission by his personal mechanic that Cancellara used a motorised bike for specific/all races.

      • David9482

        One last thing – the likelihood that Cancellara’s personal mechanic would ever make that admission is almost nil.

        Any other statement from any other person denying Cancellara did this is useless. Plus, any admission of guilt would very likely include all TT world titles, and any individual performances, explicitly or implicitly, so you’ll never get this.

        The only thing the UCI can do is make an investigation and then provide an analysis of likelihood that Cancellara used this type of motor. But you wouldn’t be able to use the results of that investigation for anything.

        But, let me say this, if Cancellara did this, he’s the biggest cheat in the history of sport… this is worse than ANY level of PEDs, use of corked bat (in baseball), betting on your own football team, tanking football games for a bet, etc. Cancellara built up a massive palmares and if he used a motorcycle to do so… I hope he gets sued for every nickel he earned. This

    • Daniel

      Im not sure how Gaimon can be taken seriously when he is currently on a social media publicity tour and trying to generate book sales. The guy rode in the WT for 3 years and would know bugger all.

      • Wily_Quixote

        That’s the bind that professional or ex-professional riders are in.

        if they do squawk about doping they are discredited (see the long list of pro-riders, mainly ex-dopers, who were vilified for whistleblowing) if they don’t squawk about doping they are complicit in ‘omerta’.

        For what it’s worth, what makes Gaimon’s statements unbelievable? That he only spent 3 years as an ultra-elite cyclist or that his statements are in a book that he profits from?

        • Daniel

          Both. The guy is more well-known since he retired than anything he did as a rider. He also says Hejesdal did not motor dope but its only because they rode on the same team, watching both videos of Fabian and Ryder, I know which one Im more suss on and its not Spartacus. Either he has some kind of proof or a reliable informant to base his opinions on or he is no more knowlegeble than the average punter watching a tv screen.

          • DaveRides

            Gaiman’s defence of his mates only (but not anyone else who does the same stuff) is particularly hypocritical.

            It’s logical to assume he’s just jealous he was never good enough to get an offer from a better team.

            • Wily_Quixote

              I am always interested in how some commentators can see into the minds of others.

              it is possible that Gaimon is jealous but that doesn’t invalidate his comments on motorised doping in the peleton or his suspicions of Cancellara.

            • Bryan Duggan

              ah yeah, of course. Gaiman has zero likeability, but to suggest we should dismiss the message because we don’t like the messenger would be folly. What was it Wiggins called Floyd Landis after his mammoth interview with Paul Kimmage? Rhymed with ‘runt’ I think. And look what came of that.

            • There is a lot of bitterness in his interviews away from his own outlets (e.g. a recent VeloNews podcast)

              • I have to say that bitterness is not an accurate description since I have read all of Phil’s books and his recent(ish) appearance on the Rich Roll Podcast shows a much more mature person than the (semi)cocky pro. A huge part of maturity and growing up is waking up from the denial and starting to call things with their real name and owning your decisions. Though this part usually warrants calls like bitterness/sour grapes/etc.

                While still (unknowingly to me why) poetisms and “euro pro glory” = PRO cycling, and continue to crowd the public space ad nauseum, PRO cycling is a broken model with the athletes being truly disposable (aka Draft Animals to use Phil’s terminology). I am far from a Phil fanboy, though to this date, his is one of the most personal (aka not ghost written) and sober views on pro cycling (though it seems surreal for those who are not even remotely connected to that niche – aka most people), everything else is pretty much “They made me do it (doping), I am not a bad guy,” or a variation of the theme.=)

          • Wily_Quixote

            How does Gaimon’s non-comments on Hejesdal invalidate his suspicions of Cancellara?

        • DaveRides

          “… if they don’t squawk about doping they are complicit in ‘omertà’.”

          Gaimon took it a step further and actively defended Tommy Danielson.

          • Wily_Quixote

            yes, he described that he thought that Danielson had used a supplement and inadvertently doped, or, in his words:
            ‘“The guy that he was [in the past] did dope,” he explains. “But the guy that I lived with, the guy that I knew, the guy that helped me train…his whole message was, ‘this is what we used to do, and here is what we do now, and here is how you do it. You just go train really hard.’’

            https://cyclingtips.com/2016/06/interview-why-phil-gaimon-believes-danielson-wasnt-doping/

            That is not the same as having an inconsistent message on doping – but it’d be curious to see what he states about danielson now.

            • DaveRides

              A note on the “contaminated supplements” line – Danielson was never able to substantiate this defence, and was given a full four year ban.

              • Wily_Quixote

                Yes, which is why I’d be curious to see Gaimon’s latest on Danielson. if he still defends his innocence it would seem inconsistent with the rest of his comments on doping.

                In stating that, not being able to substantiate the defence is not the same as actively doping but , in the balance of probability, i would assume active doping with the intent to increase performance via PEDs.

                • jules

                  I don’t know enough to say for sure, but Gaimon claims Danielson went pos for DHEA which he argues is a shitty performance enhancer and a substance relatively more likely to contaminate supplements. He makes it sound logical

              • Interesting, in a recent podcast with Gaimon (his “Real Talent” one, which is usually pretty good) TD mentions that they did show that it was a contaminated supplement.

                • According to Phil Gaimon’s description in Draft animals, so probably all we will ever know, is that there was wayyy too much publicity/noise around the initial annoucement of the second TD positive and hence when the smoke cleared out (lab testing takes time and bureaucracy) there was not much to be done (it was the full ban, no team would touch TD, etc). There is a big repuation component in pro cycling and that noise made sure TD had none of it left to salvage, no matter the real truth. Unfortunately we have all had times when we had to move on even though it was not our first choice.

      • David9482

        Daniel – I agree. Also, and I’m not criticising Gaimon’s friends/sources, but doesn’t he say that he suspects Cancellara because Gaimon’s teammates suspect him, or made comments, etc. That’s hardly conclusive or even suggestive. Fellow athletes are hardly experts at this sort of thing.

        Pure and simple, Gaimon is not an expert at this, his statement about Cancellara has next to zero credibility, and it has less than zero useful support. Quoting his older and more experienced teammates is garbage.

        I’m someone who thinks that if Cancellara did this, then he’s the dirtiest “athlete” on the planet and should be sued for every penny he earned as an “athlete” because you would suppose all his salary and winnings were using a motorcycle in a bike race (similar to bringing an atom bomb to a knife fight – complete dirtbag territory).

        But, with that being said, for this to work for cancellara, he’d have to have had a lot of cooperation for those years. Look at what it took for doping to work, and this was a cause other athletes and cyclists believed in. Other cyclists, even huge dopers, would have ratted on a motor-user in a heartbeat, so you would think more people would have come forward or would have found out.

    • Alex

      If you’ve ever met Phil Gaimon you’d know he doesn’t choose his words carefully.

      • jules

        His lawyers would have for the book though

        • David9482

          Naw… I suspect this isn’t that big of a book where lawyers would do that.

  • Callum Dwyer

    Isn’t Ieper and Ypres one in the same?

    • zosim

      Yes. Flemish and French spellings

  • Andy Logan

    Hmmmm, Moscan not having much luck is he. As for the fracture it isnt trivial and to have surgery on it must mean its relatively bad. Scaphoids can be a bad break and dont heal due to the blood flow or lack there of more like.

    • Bex

      some will be laughing so hard right now, karma strikes back !
      also could be more serious considering he broke it in a gym in what would’ve had to be a fairly regular activity. didn’t realise he’s still so young, a rider that age suffering from trying to maintain body weight maybe?

    • campirecord

      my heart bleeds for the man…

  • Patrick Murphy

    Pretty amazed still about the Gaimon comment in his book, it really has been taken out of context. It was a brief remark about a subject that has been discussed many times, nothing more. I firmly believe that this was not some tactical sales pitch, he just doesn’t come across that way at all.

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